Don't you have an elsewhere to be?

Cordelia ,'Lessons'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Laura - Jul 02, 2016 7:36:03 am PDT #24016 of 30003
Our wings are not tired.

That is wonderful, Zenkitty! Sleep is indeed a glorious thing.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 02, 2016 8:17:56 am PDT #24017 of 30003
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

landlord decided to give the lease to a relative to open their own place, even though the existing place has been there for 25 years

That seems like a recipe for failure of the new place. Won't most of the locals who frequented the previous establishment be ticked off?


Sheryl - Jul 02, 2016 8:32:41 am PDT #24018 of 30003
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

At the con, baby-wrangling and listening to the first concert of the day.


Gudanov - Jul 02, 2016 9:46:04 am PDT #24019 of 30003
Coding and Sleeping

I read an article in CNN about how Obama being president has strained relationships between some white people and some black people since it exposed a level of racism that black people didn't think their white friends had. Makes me think how it bothers me so much when people (mostly on Fox News) talk about how Obama has worsened race relations when it seems clear that his presidency has simply exposed racism that was already there. Anyhow, it got me thinking about where Obama stands among the presidents I've experienced which is pretty much Carter onwards. I was seven when Carter was elected and it was during his term that I first started paying attention to politics. This feels like the only safe place I can express this.

I'll start with character. 1. Carter - Easy choice. Even people who hate him rarely question his character.

2. Obama - While I feel like he stepped back from the promise of his 2008 campaign, he still shows a lot of character to me. The dude took on health care knowing the heavy political price it would cost because he felt it needed to be done.

3. H.W. Bush - Always struck me as a very decent man. I put him below Obama because I think he had less political courage. That's the last of the easy ones, now it gets tough to figure out.

4. Clinton - Does he have character issues? No doubt about it. He also made some politically craven decisions during office. However, despite investigation after investigation, his administration didn't have many, if any, scandals that actually affected governance. Also, and this puts him above the last two, he kept his administration in control.

5. W. Bush - This is tough, but I think I have to put W. Bush before Reagan. I think he's a decent enough guy, but that's the problem, he's just this guy. He didn't have the force of personality or the intellectual confidence to control his administration. No wonder the deficit exploded, the financial system collapsed, and we ended up in two land wars in Asia. No business being president.

6. Reagan - I didn't think I'd end up with Reagan last, but then I remembered the numerous scandals that did affect governance. I remember fact-free press conferences. I remember a president who felt like little more than a figurehead. I remember just being a kid and not seeing how his campaign promises added up: we're going to cut taxes, ramp up defense spending, not touch social security, and balance the budget? What? He seemed a decent sort of fellow, but not someone who really had what it took.

Of the recent presidents before my time, I have to admit I'm also intrigued by LBJ. He seems like the last person you'd expect to battle (and from what I understood he got in there and really twisted arms) for civil rights and fighting poverty. And he did it knowing full well the staggering political cost for his party.


sarameg - Jul 02, 2016 10:00:35 am PDT #24020 of 30003

I can put away the paint rollers. At least on this project. I still have o touch up the trim and plaster and paint one patch, but the front room and stairwell are DONE. I can put everything back and finally clean.

I still have one piece of trim to put up and the access panel, but the worst is over.


Kat - Jul 02, 2016 10:23:46 am PDT #24021 of 30003
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I think this article about LBJ is interesting: [link] More nuanced than you'd expect.


erikaj - Jul 02, 2016 11:15:11 am PDT #24022 of 30003
Always Anti-fascist!

I've been reading the Robert Caro Johnson biographies--interesting guy. Just when I thought I absolutely didn't like him, he could kind of redeem himself. Vietnam might have been different if he didn't think backing down was weak/ personally humiliating though.


sarameg - Jul 02, 2016 2:09:07 pm PDT #24023 of 30003

Hmmmm, she knocked the price down,$750 for all. And they are in great shape. She's an antiquer, just replacing it with pieces from the 1920s. I think I might get them all. Bedroom rearrangement involved.

But first I'm cleaning the front room and putting it back together.


Zenkitty - Jul 02, 2016 3:10:18 pm PDT #24024 of 30003
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I am a fan of antique dressers. If I had a bigger house it would be stuffed with antiques.

There's always more nuance to people and political situations than one expects. It's very annoying.


Laura - Jul 02, 2016 3:56:55 pm PDT #24025 of 30003
Our wings are not tired.

There's always more nuance to people and political situations than one expects. It's very annoying.

Ha! Truth.