Does anybody else miss the Mayor? 'I just want to be a big snake.'

Xander ,'End of Days'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jul 02, 2016 5:18:17 am PDT #24010 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

This is an unusual election, being a double dissolution election. Normally, as with the US system, our elections typically involve voting for all the seats in the House, and a proportion of the seats in the Senate (a half rather than a third). A double dissolution election (which involves certain conditions to be met, basically around the Senate blocking government legislation) sees every seat in the Senate up for grabs.

Wow. Aussie rules are always something else, as far as I can tell.


Laura - Jul 02, 2016 5:20:29 am PDT #24011 of 30003
Our wings are not tired.

Just the vanity & stool, asking $400, and they'd deliver this weekend for free.

I love it! Couldn't resist.

I'm really sad to see that bar go

I hope they find a new place. Easier said than done for sure.

Oh fun, meara! Yes, having your playlist ready to go would be great.

Vote! May sanity prevail.


billytea - Jul 02, 2016 5:54:26 am PDT #24012 of 30003
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Wow. Aussie rules are always something else, as far as I can tell.

We do try. (Our other winter sport, incidentally, is called Aussie Rules.) I tend to be pretty enthusiastic about the Australian system - preferential voting, compulsory voting (which kills voter suppression as an issue), proportional Senate representation, independently drawn electoral boundaries, standardised ballot design over the whole country. But since 2007, we've had five changes of Prime Minister, three of which were leadership spills rather than election results. Oh, and we knighted Prince Phillip. We do our best to inject a bit of texture into it all.


Jesse - Jul 02, 2016 6:11:44 am PDT #24013 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

(Our other winter sport, incidentally, is called Aussie Rules.)

I knew that!


Laura - Jul 02, 2016 7:00:45 am PDT #24014 of 30003
Our wings are not tired.

I tend to be pretty enthusiastic about the Australian system - preferential voting, compulsory voting (which kills voter suppression as an issue), proportional Senate representation, independently drawn electoral boundaries, standardised ballot design over the whole country.

Oh we do need to get us some of that! Not that I think this is ever going to happen, but it sounds nice.


Zenkitty - Jul 02, 2016 7:34:07 am PDT #24015 of 30003
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Yeah, we could use some Aussie rules in the USA.

Used the CPAP machine for the first time last night. Plus a nap yesterday. The machine tells me I got total 10 hours of sleep. I feel better. Not all bouncy full of energy, but I guess I have years of sleep debt to catch up on.


Laura - Jul 02, 2016 7:36:03 am PDT #24016 of 30003
Our wings are not tired.

That is wonderful, Zenkitty! Sleep is indeed a glorious thing.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 02, 2016 8:17:56 am PDT #24017 of 30003
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

landlord decided to give the lease to a relative to open their own place, even though the existing place has been there for 25 years

That seems like a recipe for failure of the new place. Won't most of the locals who frequented the previous establishment be ticked off?


Sheryl - Jul 02, 2016 8:32:41 am PDT #24018 of 30003
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

At the con, baby-wrangling and listening to the first concert of the day.


Gudanov - Jul 02, 2016 9:46:04 am PDT #24019 of 30003
Coding and Sleeping

I read an article in CNN about how Obama being president has strained relationships between some white people and some black people since it exposed a level of racism that black people didn't think their white friends had. Makes me think how it bothers me so much when people (mostly on Fox News) talk about how Obama has worsened race relations when it seems clear that his presidency has simply exposed racism that was already there. Anyhow, it got me thinking about where Obama stands among the presidents I've experienced which is pretty much Carter onwards. I was seven when Carter was elected and it was during his term that I first started paying attention to politics. This feels like the only safe place I can express this.

I'll start with character. 1. Carter - Easy choice. Even people who hate him rarely question his character.

2. Obama - While I feel like he stepped back from the promise of his 2008 campaign, he still shows a lot of character to me. The dude took on health care knowing the heavy political price it would cost because he felt it needed to be done.

3. H.W. Bush - Always struck me as a very decent man. I put him below Obama because I think he had less political courage. That's the last of the easy ones, now it gets tough to figure out.

4. Clinton - Does he have character issues? No doubt about it. He also made some politically craven decisions during office. However, despite investigation after investigation, his administration didn't have many, if any, scandals that actually affected governance. Also, and this puts him above the last two, he kept his administration in control.

5. W. Bush - This is tough, but I think I have to put W. Bush before Reagan. I think he's a decent enough guy, but that's the problem, he's just this guy. He didn't have the force of personality or the intellectual confidence to control his administration. No wonder the deficit exploded, the financial system collapsed, and we ended up in two land wars in Asia. No business being president.

6. Reagan - I didn't think I'd end up with Reagan last, but then I remembered the numerous scandals that did affect governance. I remember fact-free press conferences. I remember a president who felt like little more than a figurehead. I remember just being a kid and not seeing how his campaign promises added up: we're going to cut taxes, ramp up defense spending, not touch social security, and balance the budget? What? He seemed a decent sort of fellow, but not someone who really had what it took.

Of the recent presidents before my time, I have to admit I'm also intrigued by LBJ. He seems like the last person you'd expect to battle (and from what I understood he got in there and really twisted arms) for civil rights and fighting poverty. And he did it knowing full well the staggering political cost for his party.