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I gasped which caused #1 son to come over and look at my computer. Our conclusion is that we must have them immediately.

msbelle, my 24 yo recently walked 30 miles in Florida because he was worked up about something. It isn't the same as adults trying that stuff. The same boy often walks several miles when he has to work stuff out. Also, sounds like the therapist might well have told him the facts of life. Good.

I am tempted to start a Reasons My Teenager Is Mad At Me ala Reasons My Son is Crying.

Dooo Eeet!

I wouldn't recommend letting him know about it now, but years down the line it will have wonderful entertainment value.

The meeting with the attorney was really good in helping us to get our ducks in a row to start the process of getting Tim's dad into assisted living. The attorney's parents (or at least one parent) had developed dementia before moving into assisted living, so she offered advice based on her personal experience.

One thing I really hadn't processed is that Tim's dad is not really operating from logic/reason any more, not the way the rest of us are. His dementia isn't very advanced yet; he knows everyone and is more or less oriented to the world around him. But his short-term memory is shot, and he's unable to see the bigger picture on things (he has NO idea how much back-breaking work the boys have been doing to keep him living independently in his home), and has no capacity to make long-term plans. He's mostly living in the context of the next few hours.

So trying to appeal to reason when discussing moving to assisted living is not going to work, because he can't see that bigger picture. I don't think the next several months are going to be pleasant, but we'll get through it.

So difficult, Teppy. Aging parents and multiple offspring that don't necessarily share the same opinion. It is just hard. It sounds like the attorney was really helpful and understanding.

Definitely don't appeal to reason if it's not going to go anywhere. And if he's not into it, don't keep talking about it to try to "bring him around" -- if the conversation is upsetting, it will keep being upsetting. Is what I'd recommend, at least.

They literally tricked my grandmother into assisted living, and it is so good for her!

You need power of attorney first, though, I think.

The boys have healthcare POA (and other POA). We made sure to cover all of that legal business, for sure.

So yeah, my uncle tried talking about, which just led to (multiple) fights, so one day they told her they were going for ice cream, and literally snuck away while someone else talked to her.

The attorney told us that assisted living facilities offer respite care, where Tim's dad would go stay there for a week or 2 to give all the boys a break. And she said a lot of times respite care turns into moving in to the facility.

Of course, I can't see Tim's dad being happy with going to a facility for respite care, because he doesn't want to go anywhere at all, ever.

Yeah, that's interesting -- if it works, it works. There's a guy at the nursing home who I've heard telling his mother she's about to go home any day now for a year, so.

Today was a day that might as well have just not happened, but it involved a lot of work to get back where we started (which isn't good to begin with.)

And my brother is in the ER with probable kidney stones, annoying the staff with his humor. SIL. Posted fb pictures of him pretending to have a viagra side effect. He'll either get treated super fast or super slow...