Jayne, your mouth is talking. You might wanna look to that.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Calli - Jun 15, 2016 9:04:10 am PDT #23126 of 30003
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Interview~ma for your DH, Dana.

That Utah Lt. Gov. speech was surprisingly good. It's sad that I feel surprised when our elected officials display decency, but I guess that's where we are right now.

In good news, one of my gun nut coworkers (50 handguns, 30 shotguns, and a concealed carry permit to his name) suggested we could use better gun control today. Words I never expected to hear from this person.


Steph L. - Jun 15, 2016 9:12:14 am PDT #23127 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

50 handguns, 30 shotguns

Jesus. I get that there are collectors, but still, that seems so crazy to me. (Noting once again that I super hate guns, so my exposure to people who super love them is nil.) (Though Tim and I have pretty different POVs on gun control, even after Orlando. He's lukewarm on an assault weapons ban, because "they're already out there". But dude, the idea is to limit how many MORE are out there. It's not about eliminating gun violence, because that won't happen, but reducing the risk of harm. It's, essentially, like vaccinating, god damn it. Do it and you reduce -- but not eliminate -- the risk of harm. Don't do it and people die, in larger and larger numbers. Gah. It's just frustrating. I know that I suffer from the need to always be right, but seriously, an assault weapons ban -- I'm not talking hunting guns or handguns, and I made that clear to Tim -- seems like a no-brainer in terms of reducing the risk of harm. Jesus.)


msbelle - Jun 15, 2016 9:14:24 am PDT #23128 of 30003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

My father has multiple guns, all kept in a safe. My brother and I have told him several times now that if he wants them to stay in family he best start talking to people. If he wants money from them he best sell them. Once something happens to him where we are making any decisions, they will be destroyed.

My uncle has had family guns he never used stolen out of his home. I have no interest in keeping any guns in circulation.


Steph L. - Jun 15, 2016 9:18:13 am PDT #23129 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

My father has multiple guns, all kept in a safe.

My whole damn family has guns -- my mom, my dad, and my bro. I feel so deviant by comparison. (I do sleep with a baseball bat under the bed, so there's that.)


Burrell - Jun 15, 2016 9:23:40 am PDT #23130 of 30003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I get that Rebecca. There's a bit of a generational divide in our family when it comes to guns. Cody's dad and his uncles all love them, Cody and his bro not so much. One of uncles collects cannons and dueling pistols, but for most of them it's all about guns that actually shoot that they can carry around with them for protection.


Burrell - Jun 15, 2016 9:24:41 am PDT #23131 of 30003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Oh and their guns are emphatically unsecured! Always bugs me when we are there.


Jesse - Jun 15, 2016 9:29:02 am PDT #23132 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Well, if it's secured, it's not protecting you.


P.M. Marc - Jun 15, 2016 9:33:23 am PDT #23133 of 30003
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

He's lukewarm on an assault weapons ban, because "they're already out there".

That's why buyback programs exist when the funding for them is available. For any gun.


Steph L. - Jun 15, 2016 9:36:11 am PDT #23134 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

He's lukewarm on an assault weapons ban, because "they're already out there".

That's why buyback programs exist when the funding for them is available. For any gun.

Hey, you ain't gotta convince me. I'm the one over here spouting off terms like "epidemiology of gun violence" and whatnot.


Sophia Brooks - Jun 15, 2016 9:37:16 am PDT #23135 of 30003
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Well, if it's secured, it's not protecting you.

This is what I never understand- if you are a safe gun owner, you are not going to be able to use that gun in, say a home invasion except under special circumstances (like you are hiding near the gun safe). You might still be able to use them for self-defense, if there is an apocalypse or some need to overthrow the government. But by its nature, I do not see how you can use a gun to "protect your family" and be safe. (Yes, again I am the illogical one !?!?)