It's all about choices, Faith. The ones we make, and the ones we don't. Oh, and the consequences. Those are always fun.

Angelus ,'Smile Time'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Maria - Jun 15, 2016 7:53:59 am PDT #23119 of 30003
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

What's too bad is she isn't actually on my team, so I feel like I don't have that much leeway in giving feedback.

Do you have a good relationship with her boss? Run it by them. I don't think this is one of those things that should be let go. The subtlety of when to be a go-getter and when not is important.

Relatedly, should I move myself into the permanent job's desk in the new office to Make A Point or not?

Are you doing the job? Then you should.

If you want it, and want to remain with the org, then pitch yourself to the new boss. If the answer remains the same, you know how they feel and can conduct a job search accordingly. If you want out of Dodge, enjoy the upgraded desk while you're there, and move on to something fabulous.


Jesse - Jun 15, 2016 8:14:18 am PDT #23120 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I want out of Dodge, really, and would maybe rather sit in the lower-profile spot for that and other reasons. The actual desks are identical, so there's no benefit there. But I should want to make a point! I'm too tired to make a point.


Maria - Jun 15, 2016 8:22:35 am PDT #23121 of 30003
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Make the point when it matters to you. It doesn't sound like this is it. No reason to turn it into a crusade, especially if nothing short of a wholesale change in the business would make you happy there.


Jesse - Jun 15, 2016 8:34:57 am PDT #23122 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Thank you! Maybe the new Big Boss will lead to the wholesale change, but I basically doubt it.


meara - Jun 15, 2016 8:45:35 am PDT #23123 of 30003

Ugh, good luck Jesse.

Everything is making me cry this week. Just read a Jezebel article about a woman who had a non-viable pregnancy and it was just heartbreaking.

Also I am not super busy at work which makes me not want to even do the minimal work I have, which is bad. Ugh.


Burrell - Jun 15, 2016 8:46:22 am PDT #23124 of 30003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Yes, white guys carry a lot of privilege, but low-income white guys don't feel like they do and that nobody cares. A lot of privilege comes from money/social class.

Yeah, I've been thinking about the same issues quite a lot. This is one of those places where intersectionality comes in and can be useful, although I get how the term itself is probably alienating to some people. In my own family, there are significant differences in terms of income and class level and so I see a lot of the ways that privilege and class are linked in ways that lock out low income whites, and I see how often those same people assert their racial privileges as a way to compensate for their economic losses and hardship.


Dana - Jun 15, 2016 8:51:22 am PDT #23125 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Husband has progressed to the on-site interview portion of another job. Yay. Please let this job search be over soon.


Calli - Jun 15, 2016 9:04:10 am PDT #23126 of 30003
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Interview~ma for your DH, Dana.

That Utah Lt. Gov. speech was surprisingly good. It's sad that I feel surprised when our elected officials display decency, but I guess that's where we are right now.

In good news, one of my gun nut coworkers (50 handguns, 30 shotguns, and a concealed carry permit to his name) suggested we could use better gun control today. Words I never expected to hear from this person.


Steph L. - Jun 15, 2016 9:12:14 am PDT #23127 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

50 handguns, 30 shotguns

Jesus. I get that there are collectors, but still, that seems so crazy to me. (Noting once again that I super hate guns, so my exposure to people who super love them is nil.) (Though Tim and I have pretty different POVs on gun control, even after Orlando. He's lukewarm on an assault weapons ban, because "they're already out there". But dude, the idea is to limit how many MORE are out there. It's not about eliminating gun violence, because that won't happen, but reducing the risk of harm. It's, essentially, like vaccinating, god damn it. Do it and you reduce -- but not eliminate -- the risk of harm. Don't do it and people die, in larger and larger numbers. Gah. It's just frustrating. I know that I suffer from the need to always be right, but seriously, an assault weapons ban -- I'm not talking hunting guns or handguns, and I made that clear to Tim -- seems like a no-brainer in terms of reducing the risk of harm. Jesus.)


msbelle - Jun 15, 2016 9:14:24 am PDT #23128 of 30003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

My father has multiple guns, all kept in a safe. My brother and I have told him several times now that if he wants them to stay in family he best start talking to people. If he wants money from them he best sell them. Once something happens to him where we are making any decisions, they will be destroyed.

My uncle has had family guns he never used stolen out of his home. I have no interest in keeping any guns in circulation.