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Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


-t - Apr 27, 2016 10:01:19 am PDT #20520 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'll just scan her and email her over, Burrell.


beth b - Apr 27, 2016 10:03:26 am PDT #20521 of 30003
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I want to redo my kitchen so it has a pantry like space. Maybe some day

It seems to fit here:

I spent last week with my folks and sister . DH was there too. I et along with my family really well. We all like each other. However, I noticed some major communication issues. Despite being taught manners - we all speak very abruptly with out please and thank you . DH and i decided along time ago that the person we should be most polite to is our spouse. the person we have chosen to live with. I am not perfect. And despite the fact that many people have a really high opinion of my DH ,neither is he. so matter how often he drives me crazy, I try to speak respectfully and politely. Being with my family made me recognizes that I need to remember how much being polite makes everything betterr. I need to practice more


Sue - Apr 27, 2016 10:06:13 am PDT #20522 of 30003
hip deep in pie

Uh oh, she's declawed. I have pet doors that my current cats can go in and out of at will, I guess that might be a problem? A solvable problem? Hm.

Oz is declawed and I let him out, but mostly supervised. (Sometimes I am inside while he is out, but I am never not home.) He is however, 20 pounds and overly territorial, so he's a huge ball of fury when strange cats come in the yard. They don't stand a chance.


Steph L. - Apr 27, 2016 10:34:52 am PDT #20523 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

so matter how often he drives me crazy, I try to speak respectfully and politely.

There was a lot that was wrong with the freak-ass church (obviously), but one thing that I noted that was fairly uniform was how respectfully spouses (or boyfriends/girlfriends) treated each other, especially in public. Because we've all seen couples who are just flat-out MEAN to each other, or constantly criticize and make barbed comments to each other, and it's really awful to see (and, frankly, I don't want to be around people like that). But even when a couple in the FAC had a disagreement, they were respectful to each other. I did -- and still do -- really admire that.

And I try REALLY hard to be respectful to Tim. I was raised in a family that has...less than healthy communication styles, and so I am SUPER QUICK with a mean comeback or nasty remark. But, like Beth and Matt, I realized -- why on earth would I want to hurt the one person who is most important to me? It's been a serious work in progress, and I still have to bite back when I want to answer sarcastically (or worse). But it's worth it. Our *relationship* is worth it.

But (I feel like I need to emphasize this) -- it's been HARD WORK on my part, because I am a DICK. I sometimes tell Tim he's made me a better person, but I really think the relationship has just taught me to think before I speak, because I still have the sarcastic/mean response in my head; I just don't say it out loud. My goal is to not even have the sarcastic/mean response in my head. Someday, maybe.


Jesse - Apr 27, 2016 11:03:26 am PDT #20524 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Uh oh, she's declawed. I have pet doors that my current cats can go in and out of at will, I guess that might be a problem? A solvable problem? Hm.

-t, is it possible that your new cat is my current cat?? Miss Hazel is a declawed calico! I'd guess the question is where they get to when they go outside and who they might find there? I kind of bet Hazel would fight with the neighborhood asshole cat if she had the opportunity, and that would Not Go Well.


aurelia - Apr 27, 2016 11:16:38 am PDT #20525 of 30003
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Jesse, I just got some art from the same place. [link]

I just read that in his letter of support, Tom Delay called Dennis Hastert his "right hand man". Surely I'm not the only one to question this phrasing in this context.


-t - Apr 27, 2016 11:17:58 am PDT #20526 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I do get neighbor cats coming through the yard now and then, and raccoons and opossums and whatnot. I think it would probably be best to keep Miss Kitty inside, and it would not be terrible to keep the other cats inside (well, they might think it terrible, but we could probably work something out) but then there's Walter and he and I are both much happier when he has access to the backyard on demand. I can't think of any way to restrict access to ANYTHING to the dog if the cats want it.

The word on Miss Kitty is "she 'wants' to be an outdoor cat, but since her original owner declawed her, my friend won't let her outside" which makes me think any measures I take are going to be complicated. If I can think of any.

But now I have my heart set on her.


Dana - Apr 27, 2016 11:23:05 am PDT #20527 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I just read that in his letter of support, Tom Delay called Dennis Hastert his "right hand man".

Can we set them on fire? Both of them?


aurelia - Apr 27, 2016 11:28:36 am PDT #20528 of 30003
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Sounds fair to me.


Jesse - Apr 27, 2016 11:51:34 am PDT #20529 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Jesse, I just got some art from the same place. [link]

Ooh, pretty. That site has a lot of good art!

I just read that in his letter of support, Tom Delay called Dennis Hastert his "right hand man". Surely I'm not the only one to question this phrasing in this context.

Yikes. ("Are we still saying 'phrasing'?" - Archer)

The word on Miss Kitty is "she 'wants' to be an outdoor cat, but since her original owner declawed her, my friend won't let her outside" which makes me think any measures I take are going to be complicated. If I can think of any.

Oh yeah, that would be tricky.