Hell, I don't know. If I had wanted schooling, I'da gone to school.

Jayne ,'Ariel'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


flea - Apr 26, 2016 12:58:39 pm PDT #20461 of 30003
information libertarian

So, at work we have a makerspace, and the makerspace has a laser engraver. And today at work someone used our chat reference service to ask, "I make artisanal cheeses and I was wondering if I could use the laser engraver to engrave something on an edible cracker or cheese." The answer, sadly, was no. But, epic question, mate!

Edit: I would bet money the questioner is from Northside.


Maria - Apr 26, 2016 12:58:54 pm PDT #20462 of 30003
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Most of the problems are probably mostly my fault anyhow,

Gud, this scares me. This is not language people normally use in describing issues like this. It sounds like gaslighting to me. Marriage is a two-way street. This sounds decidedly one-way.

Please talk to a counselor. Please.


Liese S. - Apr 26, 2016 1:00:06 pm PDT #20463 of 30003
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

No, Gud, listen and listen to me very closely. Your wife may very well be a good person, but she is a good person who is wrong. I may be a good person, but I'm a good person who was wrong. I know your relationship is not mine, but in my case, most of the problems were not caused by my husband, they were caused by me, and those that were caused by him were often exacerbated by me.

Do not stop talking about it. Venting is a safe and healthy thing to do and if you can't do it with us, then please find a professional with whom you can.


Steph L. - Apr 26, 2016 1:07:13 pm PDT #20464 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Edit: I would bet money the questioner is from Northside.

If there's an artisanal cheesemaker in Northside and I don't know them, a great injustice hath been wrought.


WindSparrow - Apr 26, 2016 1:16:26 pm PDT #20465 of 30003
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Gud, venting is an okay thing to do. You are allowed to take care of yourself by talking to people who care about you. It concerns me that you have an urge to stop talking about this. Yes, there are things between spouses that are meant to be private and not shared outside the marriage, but no - being called ugly names and criticized is not a sacred trust. No one deserves to be treated that way. You deserve to be treated with respect and care. No matter how excellent a person your wife is in other ways, you still deserve better treatment.


meara - Apr 26, 2016 2:08:35 pm PDT #20466 of 30003

Oh, artisanal cheese making laser enthusiast! Making it hipster indeed.

Now I wish I'd seen Liese's post but...hugs to all?


dcp - Apr 26, 2016 2:15:30 pm PDT #20467 of 30003
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Rough day at work -- many layoffs and much re-shuffling. I'm still employed, but several of my friends are not. Survivor's guilt is awkward.


WindSparrow - Apr 26, 2016 2:16:51 pm PDT #20468 of 30003
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

That is rough, dcp.


Typo Boy - Apr 26, 2016 2:56:28 pm PDT #20469 of 30003
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Something I was thinking but did not say some months ago, Gud, when your wife was giving you hell for paying one bill one day late: isn't she the one who originally had responsibility for paying the bills in your house and managed to NOT pay any bills for six months? And then you had to work overtime for a long time to get your household out of the mess?


P.M. Marc - Apr 26, 2016 2:56:29 pm PDT #20470 of 30003
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Gud, good people can be wrong. Two good people can end up in patterns that are bad for both of them. Bad patterns, bad coping mechanisms: these don't mean she's a bad person or that you're a bad person. It means there are things that need to be addressed for the happiness of you both.