I just turned on Winter Soldier, and am already feeling better with a little of my BROT3.

"Bad" MCU slash? I don't understand.

Martin Freeman.

I wish I had gotten into vidding, because there so needs to be a vid for Steve and Bucky to "Behind Blue Eyes."

"No one knows what it's like to be the bad man, the sad man, behind blue eyes."

I think Wanda was the break point for Steve because, as much as he wanted Bucky safe and exonerated, he was totally aware of how everyone who hadn't known the guy before his capture would regard him first and foremost as a dangerous threat to be put down, with the blood of lots of people on his hands. He was doing his best to see that Bucky was brought in safe, but understood why he HAD to be brought in.

Tony thinking that holding Wanda against her will for failing to prevent 100% of terrorist bomb casualties rather than 95% was totally OK clearly demonstrated he had no understanding of what was going on behind the scenes, and wouldn't until the government decided that the danger he presents to the public outweighs the usefulness of a billionaire weapons inventor. I loved that Natasha saw what needed to be done despite her support for the Accords, and that she called Tony out on his monumental ego preventing him from considering other viewpoints or even the fact that other people have a right to them.

Matt, totally agree.

It was a smart decision to make, to make that the line he wouldn't cross.

Argh. On my phone. Want to say so much more.

Plei, in terms of Tony needing someone to protect him when he was young, he DID. That person was the big bad in Movie 1. One thing these movies hit over and over is that you can't really trust Outside People because they are corruptible/susceptible to being overtaken by shit like HYDRA.

If there was ever a group who needs something like a formalized Justice League for self-government, it's these assholes.

Also, YES to Matt's last paragraph.

Yeah, there is him. And Jarvis. See? This why I need to better-form the thoughts!

Also... I need to dig into the places they won't send us bit: Steve's got more than SHIELD in his history with that. The pragmatic choice, the triage choice, to not try to rescue the 107th is the whole reason he became Captain America for real. He's also not unwilling to face consequences for that: kid surrendered himself. But that's only something he can choose to do acting solo: he cannot have a team put in that position. (Not an official one. This is another hard to articulate piece, where people throwing in with him is different than an official leadership role. It makes sense in my head and I am still on my phone.)

Martin Freeman.

I, for real, forgot he was in Civil War when I posted my Sam-as-Watson noodling. Not really sure why the movie needed him specifically, unless they're planning on using him later.

His character shows up in Black Panther comics a lot. Or maybe they want to put him in role that Coulson had in the Phase 1 pictures, observer/audience proxy.

One thing that pinged me about the Sovokia Accords, was that I couldn't see Steve putting himself under the control of an organization that he couldn't personally, thoroughly vet. In the MCU, I can't imagine a power center like the UN not being absolutely riddled with Hydra. Having a UN committee running the Avengers would be SHIELD all over again, except this time Steve would suspect if from the start. Tony supposedly found out he'd been helping Hydra via SHIELD, too, after CA: TWS, and thus should have known better. But Avengers aside, Tony held himself apart from SHIELD. Steve seemed to be pretty well embedded in it during CA: TWS. So the whole "half my coworkers were Hydra wtf?!?" thing probably hit Steve harder.

Anyway, I hope to see it again. Maybe next weekend.