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Marvel Universe: Infinite Chrises

Discussion of all Marvel Cinematic Universe related movies and TV shows, including, but not limited to, the Avengers, Captain America, Agent Carter, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Daredevil, Spider-Man, Ant-Man, etc., etc., etc. ad-infinitum.

Discussion of non-MCU Marvel titles like the X-Men or the Fantastic Four is also permitted. Ties to comics may be discussed, but this is not the primary forum for comics discussion (see the Other Media thread).

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Consuela - Mar 16, 2022 7:33:08 pm PDT #3655 of 4001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Moon Knight looks stressful: Ms. Marvel looks FUN.


Calli - Mar 18, 2022 5:56:57 am PDT #3656 of 4001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

The Ms. Marvel trailer is great. Disney workers protesting the Don't Say Gay bill is better. [link]


Emily - Apr 15, 2022 8:47:47 am PDT #3657 of 4001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Anyone watching Moon Knight? It's irritating me and I want to share that irritation. I guess I can do that without knowing if anyone else is watching, but it'll feel less like ranting on a corner somewhere. Warning: this is... really ranty and verbose because I don't have anyone else with whom to discuss it.

Ranting anyway: look, either actually explore your bad guy's philosophy or skip it entirely. I'm sick of this "reasonable" motivation which also somehow is in favor of killing children but just stops discussing it at that point? Like he's trying to make the case but then Steven is like, "kind of a dealbreaker there" and Ethan Hawke kind of shrugs and that's it. Maybe I'm having trouble because Ethan Hawke is really convincing so I want to actually get to the heart of the problem. Are all of his lovely community-organizer followers really okay with the killing children bit? Why is everyone so into him?

I'm doing okay with Oscar Isaac character names but keep forgetting the other guy.

Oh and also along the same lines: I'm clear that Ammet is not a good guy, but... I'm not seeing a lot of evidence that Khonshu is either, so are we just rooting for Mark because he's our main character? Because I kind of need more than that. Yes, I'm on board with stopping Ethan Hawke, of course, although see above but "Khonshu's justice" is going to need a bit more fleshing out before I'm on board. Also why do the avatars invite him over to view Khonshu's punishment?! For that matter, why did Khonshu call a meeting if he wasn't going to bother to present evidence?

And finally: I get that you were drawing out the mystery, but I'm losing patience with it now. How long has Steven existed? Is Mark the original or have they always been split? How does Steven have documentation to get a job at the British Museum? How does he have so much knowledge about ancient Egypt that neither Mark nor Layla have (and that's a whole other issue, like isn't Layla a dealer in ancient artifacts? Why is she all "oh, better call up that other personality I only just found out about, he's the expert!"?)? [I think all those punctuation marks are correct, but it does look weird.]

So why am I still watching? Well, I think Oscar Isaac is great and I'm really enjoying watching him do his thing. I *am* interested in the mystery, I'm just frustrated at the pace of revelation. I really like seeing a little bit of Egypt. I find the actress playing Layla interesting. Almost everything looks really good and I enjoy the stunts. I'm just feeling a little let down by the writing. And I think I'm still suffering from post-Lost suspicion of ongoing mysteries. I never read the comic books but from what my YouTube shows tell me this is veering pretty far away anyway so I feel okay about that.

Edited because while cut-and-paste is a fine editing tool, copy-and-paste is a little confusing.


Calli - Apr 15, 2022 8:53:34 am PDT #3658 of 4001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I'm just in it for Oscar Isaac and some good production values. And I'll echo your bit about the Avatars gathering. If you don't have anything more than "this guy is bad because I say he's bad and by the way he's bad," maybe don't call a full-on meeting via solar eclipse. Perhaps just an email would do. Or maybe I've been in too many meetings lately.


Steph L. - Apr 15, 2022 8:55:05 am PDT #3659 of 4001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Oscar Isaac is pretty much the only reason I'm watching Moon Knight.

I feel like Marc has to be the original, because otherwise how would he have spent enough time with Layla to get married? (I haven't watched the current episode yet, so maybe that's explained in episode 3.)


Calli - Apr 15, 2022 10:29:13 am PDT #3660 of 4001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

(I haven't watched the current episode yet, so maybe that's explained in episode 3.)

Not that I noticed.


Tom Scola - Apr 15, 2022 12:23:54 pm PDT #3661 of 4001
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Reluctant to post because I don't know much about DID, but I think it's possible that if Marc was both the original AND an Egyptology expert, those skills could have transferred to Steven, and now Marc is cut off from them. I think that's a thing with DID?


Steph L. - Apr 15, 2022 1:13:11 pm PDT #3662 of 4001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I'm such a medical nerd that my first response to Tom's whitefont was "Really? Cool!" I did read somewhere that Oscar Isaac did a lot of research on DID because he didn't want to fuck up his portrayal(s). Which, good for him.


Emily - Apr 15, 2022 3:05:52 pm PDT #3663 of 4001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Tom, that'd be a cool explanation and soothe some of my irritation. So I'll go with that for now!

Thank you all for validating my feelings. I do think it's lovely, I'm just more impatient with some of the cliches than I used to be (character asks really significant question but it is never answered! Character outlines an important flaw in a plan and everyone ignores it and then it turns out to be an important flaw in the plan!). But the acting and visual effects are great and I'm really enjoying them.

One question: why on earth did the street vendor get all squirrely at the mention of a clearly centuries-dead mummy? And for that matter why was he on display in wossname's faux-Louvre-entrance? Was the tomb only *just* looted? That seems like odd timing, doesn't it?

Edited because while I am enjoying elements of it, saying I'm really enjoying the show seems a bit much given all my complaining! Also editing my posts afterward is just what I do and maybe we don't comment on that anymore? I've been away so long I don't know what the etiquette is these days.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 15, 2022 7:22:05 pm PDT #3664 of 4001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

It's honestly leaving me pretty meh, and that's with the Egyptian mythology aspects factored in.