I totally missed that, too! Very clever.
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I loved Yelena and the mac-n-cheese. That was brilliant. Florence Pugh is so charismatic and entertaining!
I had hoped that Clint didn't kill Maya's father, but it looks like he did? Possibly on a tip from Kazi?
And in light of that, Yelena's not entirely wrong about his culpability, but then neither is Kate on his intention to do better. I liked that Laura gave Clint free reign to protect the family, and he's still trying not to kill Maya -- although he seems to have no such qualms about the tracksuit bros.
I didn't read that scene as Clint killing the Tracksuits, just knocking them out Batman-style. I think his message to Maya to be better would have been undermined by him murdering her men.
I think the only time we've potentially seen Clint or Kate kill anyone in this series was during the car chase, and that's comic book logic debatable. Everything else has been trick arrows or shoulder/arm/leg shots.
Clint's sword was clean when he fought Maya.
But was his sleeve clean too?
Next episode is the final episode?
Yes.
I am probably the only person in the world seeing Fat Man Used Cars as a reference to Andre Braugher in Men of a Certain Age. But I have to acknowledge it.
Hawkeye: I was assuming that Kazi actually killed Maya's father on Kingpin's order, and Hawkeye knew about it (but why would he know about it? I haven't figured that out yet).
SPIDER-MAN: Obviously, so SO worth being unspoiled for.
I cried so many times, for so many reasons. (It amused me to get the reminder that all 3 Spider-Men tear up/cry at the drop of a hat.) I'm really angry about Aunt May, like, to the point that I almost yelled WHAT THE FUCK in the theater when she died. Marvel has GOT to stop killing women. Although that made me stop and think: in the Tom Holland timeline, was it ever explicitly stated that there ever even was an Uncle Ben? Because now I'm thinking there never was, especially since they gave the "great power...great responsibility" line to May. (Which I thought worked really well.)
Question on the Dr. Strange end of things, because I don't remember enough about the Dr. Strange movie: do the sling rings only work for someone who has magical power? In other words, did we get Ned Leeds, motherfucking magician???? And then have that taken away??? Or do the sling rings work for anyone?
Another question: did all y'all's audiences applaud when Andrew Garfield Spidey and Tobey Maguire Spidey showed up? Mine went went fucking NUTS when that happened. Oh, and a pretty good portion of the audience clapped for Matt Murdock.
One of my crypoints was Andrew Garfield Spidey catching MJ. That was awesome. I loved Andrew Garfield's Spidey movies, although I know I'm in the minority on that one.
I laughed my ass off at the organic webshooter conversation.
Alfred Molina, Willem Dafoe, and Jamie Foxx were having entirely too much fun with their roles. That was awesome.
And then the mid-credits scene, I can't believe I'm going to make a Ted Lasso reference, but I did almost yell "Football is LIFE!!!"
Man, I had to go back and edit that post a few times for spoiler font mishaps. Yeesh.
In conclusion: Spider-Man good.
Question on the Dr. Strange end of things, because I don't remember enough about the Dr. Strange movie:
In Dr. Strange, Stephen had a much harder time learning to make portals than Ned did, so yes, Ned’s probably got magical ability.
Another question:
In my screening, the audience cheered at all the same moments.