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-t - Jun 30, 2021 6:23:07 pm PDT #3408 of 4004
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Whaaaaat


Steph L. - Jun 30, 2021 7:04:00 pm PDT #3409 of 4004
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I too was coming to say: what the fuuuuuuuuck.

But also, if there's Lokigator then I goddamn want frog Thor, who is comics canon. Or cat Thor, which is also comics canon, but slightly more complicated because it's Loki shapeshifting to be Thor, but Thor as a cat: [link]

Also, now I'm stuck in a philosophical debate that's similar to (but not the same as) Would You Fuck Your Clone? I feel like every version of Loki, in any timeline, would answer a resounding yes. (For the record, I would not fuck my clone, because I get on my own nerves when there's only one of me.) But Loki wouldn't actually be fucking his clone, per se (assuming that Sylvie is a Loki variant and NOT Enchantress, which I still think she is); it would be more like fucking a photocopy.


-t - Jun 30, 2021 7:28:11 pm PDT #3410 of 4004
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yeah, I’m not sure how I feel about that - I do not at all get how anything could make a nexus spike on Lamentis, much less a steeper spike than has ever been seen before. But I also don’t see how young Sylvie could have messed up the timeline playing alone, so I guess I will roll with it for now and hope the sense-making comes later


Steph L. - Jun 30, 2021 7:42:40 pm PDT #3411 of 4004
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

And wait, what happened with all the nexus events that Sylvie caused at the end of episode 2? The TVA was scrambling to fix them, but then we didn't see anything more because the TVA wasn't in episode 3.

Or is my memory REALLY bad? Did those nexus events get addressed and I just don't remember it?


Tom Scola - Jul 01, 2021 4:25:07 am PDT #3412 of 4004
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Oh, and I bought a ticket to see Black Widow. In a theater.


Steph L. - Jul 01, 2021 8:04:45 am PDT #3413 of 4004
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Oh shit, I need to do that.


Jessica - Jul 01, 2021 9:03:43 am PDT #3414 of 4004
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I feel like every version of Loki, in any timeline, would answer a resounding yes.

I agree, and yet I don't want this storyline to happen onscreen. I think it reminds me too much of the bit in Time Enough For Love where Lazarus Long spends several agonizing pages being convinced that it's actually totally fine for him to fuck his hot twin girl clones because it is DEFINITELY NOT INCEST for REASONS which are VERY RATIONAL and NOT JUST HEINLEIN'S PERSONAL INCEST KINK. (The storylines aren't actually parallel in any meaningful way, but it's hitting me in a similar headspace. And I also suspect that if they do go down the romance path, it's to set up a reveal that Sylvie isn't actually a Loki variant at all and sidestep the whole issue, which would be pretty boring and lazy. )


-t - Jul 01, 2021 9:26:55 am PDT #3415 of 4004
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I agree, and yet I don't want this storyline to happen onscreen.

Thank you for putting this into words. I could not parse my own reaction but that is it.


Steph L. - Jul 01, 2021 9:55:52 am PDT #3416 of 4004
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I agree, and yet I don't want this storyline to happen onscreen.

Oh, I don't either. I guess I didn't say that before. But in that amorphous area before we get to next week's episode, or any episode where it might happen, my reaction was totally "Well yeah, Loki would do that. He's the do-that God of Mischief."

I would rather that storyline not happen at all, honestly. That's what fanfic is for.


Jessica - Jul 01, 2021 10:16:36 am PDT #3417 of 4004
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

That's what fanfic is for.

I commented on Twitter that I fully expect "compromised by the variant" to be an AO3 tag by this time next week.