I do agree that there was no real acknowledgment of the events of IM3. I didn't find any real issue with anyone's behavior, though. I keep hearing there's ridiculous amount of deleted scenes that will be on the Blu-ray, so it will be interesting to see what hit the cutting room floor.

No fanfic? gasp!

Have I written some? Of course. Have I read oodles? Good god, yes.

So I'm not the only one who found the "language" running joke to be forced and annoying. My biggest complaint was too many "witty" quips and not enough character-revealing conversation. There was a lot of shallow meaningless dialogue that seemed to be there to entertain the brainless, and not enough character service.

Steve left me cold. I feel like I'm being let down by my movie boyfriends. I still don't get what Scarlet Witch's spell-vision on him was supposed to accomplish, what havoc it should have wrought.

I thought MR was fantastic, and he had great material to work with, and while I didn't dig the existence of a Hawkeye family, I liked seeing him fleshed out more, and he too got some good character beats. Especially that resigned sigh near the end. Which maybe wouldn't have been as powerful without the family waiting for him.

Exactly, too many "signature quips" not enough conversation. Make the joke, pause for reaction, move on. In Winter Soldier, the jokes were witticisms were part of ongoing speech, not set pieces, ie, all the Sam-Steve conversations. Natasha's line about "picking up a fossil" didn't feel as intrusive.

I can't pin down the differences between Winter Soldier Steve and Ultron Steve, but he did not feel like the same guy.

Steve felt exactly right to me (which, really, would be my dealbreaker issue if he didn't), but I agree about Tony.

See, I loved the whole "language" gag up to the payoff at the end with Fury. Steve is one of my favorite characters, both in the movies and the comics, but he can occasionally be a bit of a square, so it worked for me. And I can totally see the rest of the team ribbing him about it whenever he is.

I agree with that also, Kalshane, but I think it should have gotten more of a casual treatment. Like Halley Berrys delivery of the frog/lightning line, the gag got too much relevance. It should have been off the cuff and background, something that evoked familiarity and familianess. I might have made that word up. It felt just a touch out if step. And also, Cap may be a square, by he is a soldier and has heard plenty and has been shown to have gotten over his culture shock in WS in shorthand (arguments can be made as to whether that encompassed everything or just some things (pop culture)).

It reads as prudish, which movie Cap has never struck me as, and if he's not, as movie!Cap insists about it just slipping out, then why did it slip out? It feels contrived, and a gag based on a false character note.

And yet, the Fury payoff was the only line that sounded true.

Steve felt exactly right to me (which, really, would be my dealbreaker issue if he didn't), but I agree about Tony.

Yeah, he's my dealbreaker issue, and he felt off. I wasn't impressed by how Whedon wrote him in Avengers, either.

It reads as prudish, which movie Cap has never struck me as, and if he's not, as movie!Cap insists about it just slipping out, then why did it slip out? It feels contrived, and a gag based on a false character note.

Yeah, that's how it hit me. He's not the team's nanny.

He was a little too self-righteous for my taste in Avengers.