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Marvel Universe: Infinite Chrises

Discussion of all Marvel Cinematic Universe related movies and TV shows, including, but not limited to, the Avengers, Captain America, Agent Carter, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Daredevil, Spider-Man, Ant-Man, etc., etc., etc. ad-infinitum.

Discussion of non-MCU Marvel titles like the X-Men or the Fantastic Four is also permitted. Ties to comics may be discussed, but this is not the primary forum for comics discussion (see the Other Media thread).

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Consuela - Jun 25, 2021 10:19:29 am PDT #3395 of 4004
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I was not super-impressed with that episode, although yes, the canon-bisexual thing was nice. It didn't feel like it moved the plot very much. I still have lots of questions.

Where is Sylvie from? Why didn't Loki ask her about her mother while they were talking about his? Is she a Frost Giant or has the MCU entirely forgotten that? Is her being a variant part of why she's female, and if so doesn't that mean the variation happened before her birth?

Why were they both so bad at fighting normal unenhanced human beings if they're basically gods? ISTR Loki being a lot better than that.

Why did Loki appear to give a shit about the people who were going to die, when mere days previously he would happily have had NYC burn to the ground?


-t - Jun 25, 2021 10:30:11 am PDT #3396 of 4004
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I don't think we need to spoiler font in here?

I think Loki did ask Sylvie about her mother at some point and she deflected


Jessica - Jun 25, 2021 10:32:35 am PDT #3397 of 4004
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The entire plot of this episode was pretty stupid, honestly. But I REALLY dislike Mobius, and I generally enjoy the Absurd Plot Device Forces Characters To Communicate trope, so.

I don't like that the thing is called a TemPad or TempPad whatever. Petty gripe, but I guess I feel pretty strongly about it

Because it sounds like a feminine hygiene product, or ..?


Consuela - Jun 25, 2021 10:37:45 am PDT #3398 of 4004
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

For movies and Internet streaming shows, whitefont all plot-related discussion until it's been in wide release two weeks.

I still want to know more, though. Because it strikes me that someone can become a Variant through no fault of their own: they are caught up somehow in an event that splits the timeline. It's pretty horrifying that the TVA's general attitude is to kill them off unless they can be repurposed for admin support.


-t - Jun 25, 2021 11:23:00 am PDT #3399 of 4004
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Hm, maybe we should amend that rule. Doesn't make much sense with an episode released every week.

Anyway, I hadn't really thought about what makes a Variant a Variant - that little slideshow of Loki variants were not all the Loki we are used to (who is I guess the Loki of the Sacred Timeline if that is truly a thing) just having done one thing different. I mean, some of them could be. I don't know. The whole thing does not make sense to me.


-t - Jun 25, 2021 11:31:29 am PDT #3400 of 4004
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Because it sounds like a feminine hygiene product, or ..?

That doesn't help but it's also just a weirdly non-apt name. Like who would look at that thing and think "well, it's certainly some kind of pad" when it is not padded and doesn't look like a notepad, lily pad, keypad or iPad.

Unrelatedly, there was a point where someone said something about time and space dimensions and they seemed awfully close to TARDIS


Calli - Jun 26, 2021 5:11:07 am PDT #3401 of 4004
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I think that this is setting up one or more magical gotchas. Either Sylvie is projecting this experience into Loki’s head to get more info, or Loki faked the broken temppad to string Sylvie along for more info or both.


-t - Jun 26, 2021 9:35:47 am PDT #3402 of 4004
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I was thinking she was projecting the experience at one point but it sounded like she had to use memories for that. Although she could, of course, be lying about that.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 26, 2021 2:03:42 pm PDT #3403 of 4004
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

My thought is, do they really need a working evacuation ark to power up their TARDIS remote, or just some intact part of its drive system that holds sufficient charge?


-t - Jun 26, 2021 2:43:26 pm PDT #3404 of 4004
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That makes sense, Matt.