Zoe: What's that, sir? Mal: Freedom, is what. Zoe: No, I meant what's that? Mal: Oh. Yeah. Just step around it. I think something must've been living in here.

'Out Of Gas'


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Emily - Apr 23, 2021 4:17:52 pm PDT #3330 of 4004
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Dana, full agree.

One thing that bugged me was how quickly the show wanted us to come around on John Walker. What's it been, a week? I know I said I found him sympathetic last time but that was kind of based on the idea that he'd feel guilty or something. Russell still did a good job though. Also, I had to do a movie-logic handwave about the Smithsonian visit - how did he get that there? Did he get the govt to ADMIT to that? Seems surprising. Also, Isaiah specifically said to let him stay erased and might have had a really bad reaction to you completely ignoring that. But, deep breath, "emotional moment trumps logic," and I'm good.

So during the first ep's Battleship date I remember thinking that Bucky really looked too old for her (and then realizing I didn't have a guess as to her age) and then this time when he looks through the restaurant window, he looks perceptibly younger. I don't know if anyone else had that reaction, but it made a nice contrast for me. Even though I have some issues with Sam's advice. Ah well.

So it was weird, but I liked it.

ETA one last ETA. Is there some shortage of razors post-blip? That was a LOT of scruff onscreen.


-t - Apr 23, 2021 4:32:57 pm PDT #3331 of 4004
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Well, some really good moments, but I don’t love the whole as I expected to.


Dana - Apr 23, 2021 4:54:14 pm PDT #3332 of 4004
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

One thing that bugged me was
how quickly the show wanted us to come around on John Walker. What's it been, a week? I know I said I found him sympathetic last time but that was kind of based on the idea that he'd feel guilty or something. Russell still did a good job though.

Yeah, I thought the moment when he visibly made the choice between going after Karli and trying to save the people was well done. Don't know what the hell his actual status is supposed to be now, considering, you know, he killed a guy.


Jesse - Apr 24, 2021 7:54:06 am PDT #3333 of 4004
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, that was bumpy, but here's the one thing I'm going to pick out that bothered me: the end credits saying Captain America and the Winter Soldier. I mean, I get it, obviously, but half the point of the show was that Bucky's not the Winter Soldier!!


DebetEsse - Apr 24, 2021 10:46:18 am PDT #3334 of 4004
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Yeah, Jesse, I wanted them to switch both. Like, do a crossing out, then crossing out again.

Also, no love for Bucky's therapist.

I assume that the Smithsonian exhibit said that Elijah was dead, so at least no one would go looking for him.


-t - Apr 24, 2021 10:55:21 am PDT #3335 of 4004
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I am curious about what the writers wanted Bucky to mean with that “depends on the therapist” remark


-t - Apr 24, 2021 4:37:27 pm PDT #3336 of 4004
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I totally have mixed feelings about that Captain America and the Winter Soldier thing, but they couldn’t really call him the White Wolf at this point, at least that doesn’t feel right to me.


Jesse - Apr 25, 2021 7:23:40 am PDT #3337 of 4004
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Captain America and Off-Duty Bucky!


Jesse - Apr 25, 2021 7:23:53 am PDT #3338 of 4004
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

(there is a post up there)


-t - Apr 25, 2021 9:17:33 am PDT #3339 of 4004
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Ooh, I like it!