I'll just jump in my time machine, go back to the twelfth century, and ask the vampires to postpone their ancient prophesy for a few days while you take in dinner and a show.

Giles ,'Selfless'


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Emily - Apr 16, 2021 10:03:11 am PDT #3311 of 4004
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Ep. 5: I enjoyed almost every minute of that. Okay, I'm a little irritated by there being one senator in charge of every evil/self-righteous thing the US or world government does, but other than that, I liked it. I'm impressed that they made me most sympathetic to Walker after he murdered a sympathetic character, and I'm glad Sam really got the spotlight for motivation and conflict and meaning.

It was... I liked it.

Oh okay, one thing: the Raft? a) we have only ever seen that used as a political tool to contain dissidents, so weird overtones there, and b) he seemed pretty well contained in prison until Bucky came along. But that's super minor. Oh, so much was good.


-t - Apr 17, 2021 5:01:48 pm PDT #3312 of 4004
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Bucky saying he was right-handed made me laugh harder than it probably should


-t - Apr 17, 2021 5:06:53 pm PDT #3313 of 4004
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That thread on the Walker costume is terrific! I knew I hated the design but it’s so good to have why I should hate it explained!


Steph L. - Apr 17, 2021 5:45:36 pm PDT #3314 of 4004
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I love a good training montage.

Also, I assume that what's in the case Bucky brought Sam from Wakanda wasn't Sam's repaired wings -- or wasn't JUST Sam's repaired wings, but also a Captain America suit. Which I ALSO assume, since it's from Wakanda, is like Black Panther's suit and will be able to absorb and then discharge kinetic energy.

Also, Sharon Carter: Power Broker or no? Did she really just sent Batroc to give bombs to the Flag Smashers, or did she set Batroc (and the Flag Smashers) up? I genuinely can't decide.

I'm still not on board with the idea that Bucky needs to "make amends." He was victimized and used as a weapon for decades. Making amends implies that he, James Buchanan Barnes in his right mind, did horrific things that require amends, and that is emphatically not the case.


-t - Apr 17, 2021 7:33:21 pm PDT #3315 of 4004
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That “you weren’t amending, you were avenging” was a good line, though.


Steph L. - Apr 17, 2021 8:07:38 pm PDT #3316 of 4004
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Ah, fair point.


DebetEsse - Apr 18, 2021 12:53:45 am PDT #3317 of 4004
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I agree, Teppy, but HE thinks he needs to, so, then you can either point out that he's not actually breaking out of the basic paradigm, just pointing it in the other direction, or you can argue with him about whether he should even feel guilty about any of this. And I think we all agree that his therapist was...kinda shitty, so nuance wasn't ever going to be the thing, and maybe Sam is coming at it from "Look, dude, you're starting to think about feelings. Good job. Lean into that." and hoping he can get there thinking it was his own idea...

At least, that's the fic I would write.


-t - Apr 18, 2021 7:03:17 pm PDT #3318 of 4004
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I can maybe see Bucky having come up with the atoning/making amends/whatever project as a way of dealing with his guilt and everybody going along with that? There’s a lot I don’t get about the way just about everyone is behaving, though. A lot.


Steph L. - Apr 19, 2021 1:32:56 pm PDT #3319 of 4004
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

So, I admit that I know absolutely ZERO about Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, but the trailer has not increased my knowledge at all: [link] . It seems like Generic Superhero Origin Movie With Asian Characters. Which, eh.

I mean, I'll still see it. I'll watch any superhero movie, as evidenced by my willingness to watch Zack Snyder's movies and WW84.


-t - Apr 19, 2021 1:55:10 pm PDT #3320 of 4004
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Looks fun! I am pretty comfortable with not knowing what the deal is with superheroes, though. Preferable to Zack Snyder, for my money.