And don't you ever stand for that sort of thing. Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back! ... You got the right same as anyone to live and try to kill people.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Marvel Universe: Infinite Chrises

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askye - Mar 27, 2021 9:50:36 am PDT #3258 of 4004
Thrive to spite them

My main reaction to the current Falcon WS episode was...this feels a lot like how reluctant duo to lovers fanfic starts .


Consuela - Mar 28, 2021 7:13:34 pm PDT #3259 of 4004
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I'm thinking I'm kind of on board with the bad guys so far. Their motto one people, one world sounds okay to me. And who were the people who showed up at the airfield and immediately started shooting? They seem bad.

I would also like to know, if Bucky and Sam are free agents, who is paying for their travel and equipment? Hell, who is paying for Bucky's therapy?

I do appreciate the way the show is being very forthright about the racism in American society, but I will continue to be worried about how it's basically still very pro-military.


Steph L. - Mar 28, 2021 8:15:00 pm PDT #3260 of 4004
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Many people have an opinion on Anthony Mackie’s ass: [link]


Steph L. - Mar 29, 2021 8:54:46 am PDT #3261 of 4004
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I'm thinking I'm kind of on board with the bad guys so far.

Yeah, I can't tell if the show wants us to be on the side of the red hand group or not.


Nora Deirdre - Mar 29, 2021 3:08:14 pm PDT #3262 of 4004
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

And who were the people who showed up... (spoiler font)
When the scene first started, the guy said it was The Power Broker. That character is in the comics as well... and I'm pretty sure that he was the one that texted Karli when the Flag Smashers were settling into their hideaway.

The Isaiah Bradley stuff was heartbreaking and infuriating, and I think pretty important.

" One People, One World " sounds good, but I don't quite understand how they're going to fulfill their mission statement of bringing the world back to how it was during the Blip. I just don't see their vision board clearly here. The motto and the fact they're trying to get vaccines to communities in need are good things, but the Blip love seems to point to a half-extinction event in the plans.

Anyway, I really liked both episodes and I'm digging the show.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 30, 2021 2:18:25 pm PDT #3263 of 4004
What is even happening?

I keep calling The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, The Falcon and the Snowman. Regarding episode two, I deeply appreciate Bucky's hatred of new Captain America. The writers are brilliant and utterly transparent in their brilliance. It was going to be difficult to accept anyone but Chris Evans as Cap. I am not spoiled for anything and have not read the comics, but it seems pretty clear that this is a temporary Cap, who might even be a villain, so I'll be utterly relieved when either Sam or Bucky picks up the shield. Meanwhile, I can just enjoy Bucky's cathartic snark.


-t - Mar 30, 2021 2:31:45 pm PDT #3264 of 4004
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I have that same association, Cindy. I barely remember that movie, but it had a good title.


DebetEsse - Mar 30, 2021 3:35:02 pm PDT #3265 of 4004
Woe to the fucking wicked.

TF&TWS: I am prepared for the Flagsmashers to go either way, either they're willing to go all Thanos methods for their agenda, or they're going to be crushed by the Actual Bad Guys , and be at worst a sympathetic antagonist.

I liked how they name-checked White Wolf , which seems like it very well may end up with both Falcon and Winter Soldier no longer being those things by the end of the series.


Steph L. - Mar 30, 2021 4:22:02 pm PDT #3266 of 4004
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I keep calling The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, The Falcon and the Snowman.

It's the Bird Guy and Old Man show.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 30, 2021 6:42:07 pm PDT #3267 of 4004
What is even happening?

-t, I don't even think I saw that movie, but I remember the title. Maybe Timothy Hutton and Sean Penn were in it.

It's the Bird Guy and Old Man show.

I'll allow it. Also anything Bird-ish PLUS anything Cold-ish. The Eagle and the Yeti? Why not. The Sparrow and the Skier? Sure.

Debet, I kept feeling like a lot of the flag smashers were more or less akin to idealistic Bernie supporters and that they're being exploited by Actual Bad Guys