Wesley: Perhaps the whole point of this experiment is hair. Gunn: I vote he's not in charge.

'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


Marvel Universe: Infinite Chrises

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Jessica - Feb 26, 2021 6:19:59 am PST #3203 of 4004
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I...did not enjoy that. As someone who watched (almost) all of Agents of SHIELD *and* all of Alias, I like to think I have a pretty high tolerance for infodump eps, but...ngh. Oh well.


Dana - Feb 26, 2021 10:50:46 am PST #3204 of 4004
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Didn't the SWORD guy say that Wanda took Vision's body from them? What a lying liar.

And was he actively trying to traumatize her by showing her Vision's body? Trying to trigger an explosion of her powers?


-t - Feb 26, 2021 4:30:29 pm PST #3205 of 4004
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

What?

I don't know of I'm just not in the mood for "everything you thought you knew was wrong", but I am not sure about all this.


Steph L. - Feb 26, 2021 5:14:40 pm PST #3206 of 4004
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

That really was a big infodump. And Hayward is a dick.

So, now that the MCU has mutants, the retcon is that Wanda always had latent mutant powers all along, but the mind stone that Hydra used is what brought them out? I mean if they've gotta retcon her into a mutant, that's not the worst way to do it.

Also, Vision and Wanda were the 2 characters I cared least about in the MCU, and this show has managed to get me to care about them, so, well played, MCU.

There's only one episode left, and I'm worried we're not going to find out what the goddamn deal is with Dottie.


-t - Feb 26, 2021 6:18:26 pm PST #3207 of 4004
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That would be bad. I’m plenty curious about Dottie.

There’s a whole lot of stuff to be resolved next week! Maybe more will be left on the table for season 2 than I would guess.


-t - Feb 26, 2021 8:15:16 pm PST #3208 of 4004
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Randomly, in the murder mystery I’m currently reading the victim is named Harkness. It’s a bit distracting.


chrismg - Feb 27, 2021 7:07:51 am PST #3209 of 4004
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

I was kind of cringing when I heard the episode was called "Previously on...", but that was mostly thinking it would be a rehash of the previous episodes.. I thought the section with Little Wanda kind of dragged, but aside from that found it pretty compelling.

They've missed a couple of gags I wouldn've liked though. The previous episode they should have had Vision ask Darcy, "You've been watching what now?", and in this one:

KATHRYN HAHN: Previously on Agatha All Along! ....what?

(indistinct voice)

KATHRYN HAHN: Oh come on!

(indistinct voice)

KATHRYN HAHN: FINE! (sarcastically) Previously on Wandavision


DCJensen - Feb 27, 2021 7:18:53 am PST #3210 of 4004
All is well that ends in pizza.

Agatha as Hannah Barbara cartoon: [link]


chrismg - Feb 27, 2021 7:49:20 am PST #3211 of 4004
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

Oh, that's cute.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 27, 2021 6:13:35 pm PST #3212 of 4004
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think that they're not so much saying Wanda is a mutant, as some prophesied witch whose powers work differently from the way they do for other people, more instinctively without years of occult scholarship or an organized framework of spells. (Note that Agatha's runes did work to suppress Wanda's power, which I don't think they would have against, say, Iron Man's weaponry or Captain America's strength.)

Dr. Strange established that sorcerers are drawing energies from other dimensions to cast their spells. I suspect the Mind Stone opened up Wanda's ability to do so without the training normally necessary, and she's sucking in massive amounts of power from a potentially sinister or destructive source that she knows even less about than Kaecillius and his zealots knew about Dormammu.