I think losing both Natasha and Tony played a role in the decision, too. He may have still done it if Tony had lived, but I don't think he'd have done it if Natasha had. (Of the OG Avengers, she was the one he was closest to and the one who he'd have felt an obligation towards.)
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America's ass.
Oh yeah.
I'm very glad to have all of you here to answer my questions before I even ask them. And I'm not sure there are words to express how much I love that it ended with Steve and Peggy.
HOW DO I GET Dear Mr Fantasy out of my fucking head? CHRIST WEPT. But, man, that segue into Tony and Nebula (MY CYBORG BB!) passing the time on the ship. Those little moments of mutual kindness... SO MANY LITTLE MOMENTS showing everyone's humanity. God.
I forgot to mention this: during the support group scene, I thought for about 15 seconds -- for real -- that it was a support group for LGBTQ+ folx, and we were about to get confirmation of Steve Rogers, Disaster Bi. No lie, I really thought they were going to go there. But only for 15 seconds.
Steph, I thought that too! For about 15 amazing seconds.
Oh, hey, I just realized that Eddie Brock is the first onscreen Marvel pansexual.
Oh! Tep! Paul said that he somehow went into Endgame thinking Venom was going to be in it. Then I had to explain why I found that so hilarious.
Oh! Tep! Paul said that he somehow went into Endgame thinking Venom was going to be in it.
Bahahahaha!!!
Poor Paul, deprived of Venom.
got some venom innim
The local NOLA paper has an article about how a black kid from New Orleans is now Captain America.
In addition to that, and in addition to the chance to become a role model for countless children, there's an added bonus for him. As a vocal and longtime fan of the New Orleans Saints, he can move past a certain bit of cruel irony. He no longer has to pretend to like being a Falcon.
In the bargain, all of the Who Dat Nation can also now brag of something no other NFL team can: The Saints are Captain America's Team.
My revised ending:
While "use it and die" is an effective way of ending Tony's arc with the most pathos, I was thinking of what they described in the comics, when various people put on the Infinity Gauntlet--what will this person do, with ultimate power right in their hand.
So Tony snaps, Thanos and his army dissolves, and we go to a shot of Tony, damaged but not fatally, staring at the Iron Man version of the Gauntlet, watching the stones sparkle in the light. "I could fix it all," he says, "the armor around the world. Armor around everything." Pepper tries to talk him down, Peter tries to talk him down, but they're what he most wants to protect in the world, plus there's Morgan.
Then Steve steps up and says, "You don't need that, Tony. And what are you without the suit? You're Iron Man."
Tony grins, peels off the stones adn wraps them in a piece of armor, and holds it out to Steve, who backs away. "You think you're not worthy? You're holding that," and he nods at Mjolnir.