Marvel Universe: Infinite Chrises
Discussion of all Marvel Cinematic Universe related movies and TV shows, including, but not limited to, the Avengers, Captain America, Agent Carter, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Daredevil, Spider-Man, Ant-Man, etc., etc., etc. ad-infinitum.
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I really wish this movie had been made before Iron Man, because the weakest parts for me were the careful tiptoeing around MCU canon to make sure they didn't break anything. (And, as I said on Twitter,
I could have done without Uncanny Valley Coulson - just because de-aging CG exists doesn't mean it has to be used EVERYWHERE.
And I remain annoyed that
the last scene wasn't given to the title character. Give her the big hero moment and END THE MOVIE. Put the fanservice Avengers scene in the post-credits.
That said, I recommend seeing it twice because the mytharc stuff (important for keeping track of things before Endgame but not so much for this specific movie) was much easier to ignore the second time around, and as a character movie, it's GREAT.
(I was also iffy on the
I'm Just A Girl music cue
the first time, but now I love it, and wish they'd leaned in even more and made it diegetic. The ship was already
full of 90s memorabilia,
how hard would it have been for
someone to bump into a CD player during the fight?)
PHIL PHIL PHIL PHIL PHIL!
Ahem.
I suppose it's not really very badass
to say a cat, especially an extraterrestrial alien cat, clawed your eye up. But cat claws are filthy, especially with what he eats.
So how did the cat get there?
was he Mar Vell's?
I was delighted to see the beard as well. It'll be interesting to figure out when he shaves.
I was so happy
to see the whole 'How tough are you without your weapons?' schtick kicked in the teeth.
They had to have the end bits tie in to the larger world. Despite how good a chapter it is, it is just a chapter. It answers the question of where was she through all of everything. Nick's probably been thinking "Is this the time I push the button? Can the Avengers pull this off the way I think they can?"
I thought "I'm Just a Girl" was kind of lightweight for a significant battle. But the 90s were not that big a decade for me.
The roll-down window was a nice touch.
I don't remember Ronan being that much a tool of the Kree--except he did go rogue when the Nova Corps treaty was signed. I love all these links.
Was
that Hill going down the stairs with Phil?
PHIL!
I watched it and I loved it. I liked it a lot more than Wonder Woman because it didn't hit my trigger point of someone needing important information and the people who are supposed to help don't give enough information. Also people trusted that she would know what she was doing. There was also no romance which was nice and a change.
So other thoughts
Fury and Goose were awesome. I want to see more Fury and Goose just to see Samuel L Jackson sweet talk a cat. Fury obviously had cats before, maybe even had one at home or more than one. The music was awesome.
Jude Law's character was an asshole. His whole thing. And at the end when Carol had destroyed the nuclear warheads and the ship and she came back down and he pulled out his weapons like he had a chance to fight her I felt like "of course he thinks he has a chance". Matthew made a comment about how it was stupid and I said it was mediocre white male entitlement. Then acting like he made her and she had something to prove to him.
askye,
I think that was my favourite moment in the movie.
Hands up: who wanted Talos
to turn into a file cabinet?
I sure did.
Also, no
Secret Invasion no no no.
We watched Venom tonight too. We hadn't seen it before although I have read fanfic.
I had a hard time rooting for Eddie. I came around but that was a lot of entitled male behavior to get through. Not just closing this fiancee her job but he got the scientist killed.
I also really wanted Drake to die horribly. More like what Venom described to the monster at the end.
Captain Marvel: archive scene!
Feminism-shminism, I feel connected to the MCU in ways I never had before.
It's good to know that
I likely never have to fear being eaten by a tentacle-faced space cat, since Fury's initial reaction to Goose is pretty much mine to any cat upon first meeting.
My current MCU rankings, which are not so much rankings these days as they are groupings:
Really great, approaching perfection, transcendent:
- Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014)
- Black Panther (2018)
- Marvel's The Avengers (2012)
- Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)
- Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Great, solid filmmaking, very few flaws:
- Thor: Ragnarok (2017)
- Iron Man (2008)
- Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017)
- Avengers: Infinity War (2018)
- Captain Marvel (2019)
- Captain America: The First Avenger (2011)
Good, highly rewatchable, despite weak parts:
- Ant-Man (2015)
- Iron Man 3 (2013)
- Ant-Man and the Wasp (2018)
- Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017)
- Iron Man 2 (2010)
Only OK, still better than most other superhero films:
- Doctor Strange (2016)
- Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015)
- The Incredible Hulk (2008)
- Thor (2011)
- Thor: The Dark World (2013)
My current MCU rankings
That reminds me of a coworker's 77-year-old mother. They were going to see Captain Marvel, and the mother said, "I sure hope this is better than that Justice Friends movie we saw." Said coworker's response was, "They all are, Mom. They all are."