Marvel Universe: Infinite Chrises
Discussion of all Marvel Cinematic Universe related movies and TV shows, including, but not limited to, the Avengers, Captain America, Agent Carter, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Daredevil, Spider-Man, Ant-Man, etc., etc., etc. ad-infinitum.
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Even if the presence of the refugee Skrull on Mar-Vell's ship didn't make much sense to me...
My head cannon is that
The Skrulls were on Mar-Vell's ship the entire time. Mar-Vell was transporting Skrull refugees to safety, when they came across C-53 and detected the Tessaract's energy signature. Mar-Vell realized she could use the Tessaract to power an FTL drive, so she went to the surface and either stole the Tessaract, or "borrowed" it from Howard Stark in exchange for helping him invent the quadjet, and he helped her set up her research.
The irony is that
if she had realized the Tessaract was the goddamn SPACE STONE, she could have just used it to open a portal instead of trying to invent a FTL drive.
What I wondered is
if Mar-Vell had her own Kree interstellar cruiser, couldn't they have just kept going in one direction until they were either too many jumps ahead or too far away from a jump point for the Kree to ever follow that far and look for them?
I liked it fine, but I really wish that
montage of Carol getting up
had come a half-hour in, instead of a half-hour from the end. I'm all set with origin stories, I guess.
(I feel bad about not liking it more.)
Jesse, that is how I was with Wonder Woman. Not sure when I'll get to the theater for this.
I took Ryan to see Captain Marvel this afternoon. We enjoyed it very much. So did the rest of the audience;
in the closing credits scene, where she turns up in the Avengers HQ, the audience broke into applause. Looks like there's a lot of good feeling for the prospect of spending more time with Carol Danvers.
Question for those more in the know than I am:
in the comics, do the Skrulls and Kree get presented the way they were in this movie? I only remember hearing about the Skrulls as bad guys.
In the comics,
the Kree and Skrulls are both antagonists, but the Skrulls tend to be the worse of the two races. Presenting the Skrulls as sympathetic and the Kree as straight-up genocidal is a switch from the comics. Some comic fans are upset that Marvel is signaling it won't be adapting the "Secret Invasion" storyline from the comics, while other comic fans are relieved.
As
Secret Invasion was DUMB, I am relieved.
Also,
there have been sympathetic Skrulls in the past. Also also, I haven't given up hope for an eventual Young Avengers thing. (Totally related.)
I really wish this movie had been made before Iron Man, because the weakest parts for me were the careful tiptoeing around MCU canon to make sure they didn't break anything. (And, as I said on Twitter,
I could have done without Uncanny Valley Coulson - just because de-aging CG exists doesn't mean it has to be used EVERYWHERE.
And I remain annoyed that
the last scene wasn't given to the title character. Give her the big hero moment and END THE MOVIE. Put the fanservice Avengers scene in the post-credits.
That said, I recommend seeing it twice because the mytharc stuff (important for keeping track of things before Endgame but not so much for this specific movie) was much easier to ignore the second time around, and as a character movie, it's GREAT.
(I was also iffy on the
I'm Just A Girl music cue
the first time, but now I love it, and wish they'd leaned in even more and made it diegetic. The ship was already
full of 90s memorabilia,
how hard would it have been for
someone to bump into a CD player during the fight?)
PHIL PHIL PHIL PHIL PHIL!
Ahem.
I suppose it's not really very badass
to say a cat, especially an extraterrestrial alien cat, clawed your eye up. But cat claws are filthy, especially with what he eats.
So how did the cat get there?
was he Mar Vell's?
I was delighted to see the beard as well. It'll be interesting to figure out when he shaves.
I was so happy
to see the whole 'How tough are you without your weapons?' schtick kicked in the teeth.
They had to have the end bits tie in to the larger world. Despite how good a chapter it is, it is just a chapter. It answers the question of where was she through all of everything. Nick's probably been thinking "Is this the time I push the button? Can the Avengers pull this off the way I think they can?"
I thought "I'm Just a Girl" was kind of lightweight for a significant battle. But the 90s were not that big a decade for me.
The roll-down window was a nice touch.
I don't remember Ronan being that much a tool of the Kree--except he did go rogue when the Nova Corps treaty was signed. I love all these links.
Was
that Hill going down the stairs with Phil?
PHIL!