Xander: Just once I'd like to run into a cult of bunny worshippers. Anya: Great. Thank you very much for those nightmares.

'Sleeper'


Marvel Universe: Infinite Chrises

Discussion of all Marvel Cinematic Universe related movies and TV shows, including, but not limited to, the Avengers, Captain America, Agent Carter, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Daredevil, Spider-Man, Ant-Man, etc., etc., etc. ad-infinitum.

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Tom Scola - Nov 06, 2017 5:55:03 am PST #1684 of 4006
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

My current rankings, which change often:

    • Captain America: Civil War
    • The Avengers
    • Captain America: The Winter Soldier
    • Guardians of the Galaxy
    • Iron Man
    • Thor: Ragnarok
    • Spider-Man: Homecoming
    • Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
    • Ant-Man
    • Captain America: The First Avenger
    • Iron Man 3
    • Doctor Strange
    • Avengers: Age of Ultron
    • The Incredible Hulk
    • Thor
    • Iron Man 2
    • Thor: The Dark World

But really, 1-4 and 5-8 are all pretty much interchangeable with each other.


smonster - Nov 06, 2017 8:33:40 am PST #1685 of 4006
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

I super loved Ragnarok. It was hilarious, and had some innovative action scenes, and the emotional beats were there. Tessa Thompson was fantastic, and I'm so thrilled that black girls get such a great cosplay of their own (of course, Black Panther is going to offer an embarrassment of badass black women, which will be even better). I agree that Banner felt just a hair off, which I was trying to handwave because who wouldn't be confused after a couple of years as the Hulk ? I enjoyed Goldblum's performance and the whole 80's video game/pro wrestler aesthetic of that world.

Quibbles: I'd like to see more heroines with a powerful stride (à la Holtzman in Ghostbusters) and less of a sexy model strut as Héla and Valkyrie did here.

I can also pinpoint the exact moment when I tired of Waititi's character, which was fortunately about ten minutes from the end of the movie. It's interesting to read about how that style of humor is firmly rooted in Kiwi and specifically Maori culture, but it doesn't make me like it any more. Unsurprisingly, I did not enjoy "What We Do in the Shadows."

Overall,,minor objections and I can't wait to see it again. The Thor series definitely needed some lightening up, and this served nicely.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 06, 2017 9:51:36 am PST #1686 of 4006
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I can also pinpoint the exact moment when I tired of Waititi's character, which was fortunately about ten minutes from the end of the movie.

Was it when he repeated his "we have a spaceship, wanna come?" invitation to the fleeing Asgardians? Because that was my enough already, you have a climactic fight to direct! moment with the character.


smonster - Nov 06, 2017 10:59:19 am PST #1687 of 4006
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

No, it was when they were leaving on said ship and he was giving the speech about Asgard's foundations because it was so clearly telegraphed what was going to happen . And the the bit with Meek being dead was just gross .

IMHO, YWaititiMV.


Connie Neil - Nov 06, 2017 11:33:46 am PST #1688 of 4006
brillig

I agree. It was very disconcerting and cartoony.


billytea - Nov 06, 2017 11:51:14 am PST #1689 of 4006
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I enjoyed Goldblum's performance and the whole 80's video game/pro wrestler aesthetic of that world.

I swear Goldblum at one point had just gone to the director and said "So this scene, love it, just one thing: can you make sure that every time the camera comes back to me I'm doing something weirder. No, I'm open to suggestions, just - weirder."

I loved Korg, but agree about that foundations crack. (So to speak.) It was too obvious a joke, and I'm not sure Korg would've been in for the lofty inspirational speech in the first place.


Dana - Nov 06, 2017 12:05:57 pm PST #1690 of 4006
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Yeah, the bits I had problems with were those bits, where it was really obvious where the joke would land.

I thought the bit with his dead friend was hilarious, though.


Steph L. - Nov 06, 2017 12:17:45 pm PST #1691 of 4006
I look more rad than Lutheranism

One of my favorite moments is a little thing, but when the not-Revengers were fleeing in the Grandmaster's orgy spaceship and Valkyrie was already on top of the ship kicking ass and Thor decided to go out there, too. Because Valkyrie was doing just fine on her own and didn't actually NEED help, but I think Thor really just wanted to fuck some stuff up, too, so out he went. I am sticking with my headcanon on that one.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 06, 2017 1:24:26 pm PST #1692 of 4006
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I enjoyed that, but it was another instance that really underlined how much Thor's power and competence varied from scene to scene depending on whether the director wanted it to be dramatic or comedic. The Thor who can take down Surtur singlehandedly, wreck half a giant arena using the Hulk as a croquet ball, and knock spaceships out of the sky by leaping from one to the next is not the same Thor who can be dropped by an electrified net, restrained against his will like the various non-superpowered gladiator mooks, or terrorized by Stan Lee with bionic barber scissors.


Connie Neil - Nov 06, 2017 1:46:24 pm PST #1693 of 4006
brillig

I really liked "Are you the god of hammers?" Though being able to fly was very handy. I don't know if jumping far is the same thing.

The bit in the trailers where Hela says "What were you the god of again?" was diluted quite a bit with Thor reclaiming his powers in the arena. I think the trailers deflated a lot of cool bits.

In Dr. Strange, just before the car crash, Steven's finder-of-cool-cases (very Dr. House) was going over possibilities, and the first one was an Air Force Colonel with spinal damage from an accident with "some kind of experimental armor." Steven Strange turned down helping Rhodey! Which is just as well, I guess, because he wasn't going to be helping anybody.