Why was there even The Originals, sumi?

I'm angry there's an Originals spinoff and not Wayward. I know that.

So much meh. At least Lucifer is finally gone for good and I'm loving Michael's look but otherwise, yawn.

Do you think he really is? Death on this show means less than nothing, now.

I hope so. I've been tired of him for quite a while, now.

I'm so tired of Pellegrino (who I do think is a good actor, but inclined to chew the scenery), that for me it has carried over to the character. I don't think I can judge the character objectively. At least he plays/played a villain.

I keep hoping Gabriel's death was a fake-out, but I feel that by showing us the burnt-out wing print on the ground is supposed to be taken as proof that it's real and final.

Same on Gabriel.

I am, oddly, inclined to not blame Pellegrino for my weariness with Lucifer (even though I liked the character a little better with other vessels). The character is not interesting or fun, just a lazy buinch of cliches with no real motivation for anything. IMO

It didn't help that I much preferred Bellamy Young's performance as the character right from the start. If they'd continued with that motivation/tone I'd have been all over it.

Pellegrino is a gun fetishist (imo) among other things, and my meta knowledge of him has ruined his performances for me.

The character is not interesting or fun, just a lazy buinch of cliches with no real motivation for anything. IMO

I will take your word for this, -t. I just see him and go, "UGH!" then wait for him to be off the screen.

It didn't help that I much preferred Bellamy Young's performance as the character right from the start. If they'd continued with that motivation/tone I'd have been all over it.

Bellamy Young is pretty delightful.

My favorite, more recent, longer Lucifer performance was Misha's.

I'm still wishing the Wayward spinoff had been greenlit However, it also still confounds me that they didn't spinoff Castiel and Crowley into their own series, years ago.

I'm angry about the Wayward spinoff, too. Could have been a great show. Maybe they were wondering if it would split viewership? It could have turned out like Supernatural: Girls Edition!, I guess, but I was invested in those characters.

Saw Misha post that it was the first day of filming S14. Crazy. And sad that the guys get such a short summer break.

The second Hillywood SPN Parody is up! It's fantastic. A lot of awesome surprises. [link]

Wow! That's wonderful!

Misha does an *awesome* Annie Potts. And I love Pelly as Slimer.

And Jake/Adam got a "get out of hell free" card!