River: The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds given adequate vacuuming systems. Mal: See, morbid and creepifying, I got no problem with, long as she does it quiet-like.

'Safe'


Natter 73: Chuck Norris only wishes he could Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Nov 05, 2014 4:10:05 am PST #9726 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Also, and you may not have heard, but he's still black.

(I'm super bitter this morning, and not a little confused that, like in many places, my overwhelmingly Republican county voted in almost all the Republicans, yet voted to fund the public schools, mental health, and the indigent health care issue, and voted to raise the sales tax to keep a local landmark from literally crumbling. So much cognitive dissonance.)


billytea - Nov 05, 2014 4:23:53 am PST #9727 of 30000
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

(I'm super bitter this morning, and not a little confused that, like in many places, my overwhelmingly Republican county voted in almost all the Republicans, yet voted to fund the public schools, mental health, and the indigent health care issue, and voted to raise the sales tax to keep a local landmark from literally crumbling. So much cognitive dissonance.)

Not wrong. A tweet from a Fivethirtyeight columnist:

So voters want a higher minimum wage, legal pot, abortion access and GOP representation. Ok then.

Apparently the polls had something like a 6% bias towards the Democrats on average. Hugely disappointing results. I was at least holding onto the thought that the Dems would easily take back control in 2016, when the 2010 wave year Repubs would be in the firing line (and in a Presidential year); but that's less comforting if they might wind up with around 54 seats.

There are silver linings to point to, I suppose; but I find I'm not really up for it right now.


Steph L. - Nov 05, 2014 4:28:48 am PST #9728 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Although -- I said this a few places on FB last night -- there is no way I could ever, EVER feel as bad as I did after the 2004 election, so there's that. (Really. That was my oh-my-god-super-naive election, where I thought the rest of the country agreed about what a horror Bush was, and showed up in overwhelming numbers to throw the bum out. It was like waking up in a different, somewhat hostile, country the next day.) By now -- man, it's been 10 years -- I am totally inured to seeing my fellow citizens voting against their best interests.


tommyrot - Nov 05, 2014 4:38:43 am PST #9729 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Although -- I said this a few places on FB last night -- there is no way I could ever, EVER feel as bad as I did after the 2004 election, so there's that.

Hmmm... I'm not sure which election I felt the worst about. 2004 was definitely very bad, but I've also felt bad about 1988 and 2000.

So every time a Republican wins the presidency, I guess.

The 1994 midterms were bad for me, but I got to blow off steam at a wonderful Cramps show, so that helped.


Fred Pete - Nov 05, 2014 4:58:02 am PST #9730 of 30000
Ann, that's a ferret.

And that the Democrats were taking victory laps about the economy when lots of people were still out of work, many people in real terms are continuing to see drops in household incomes, and just about nobody has seen a raise in real dollars.

I can't say I've seen victory laps. The closest I've seen to "victory laps" is hearing people say that we've made a lot of progress, but we have a long way to go. I do think it's fair to say that the economy is a lot better today than it was when President Obama took office. But that's like saying it's better to be on crutches than in a full body cast.

As a gay man and a 50-something-year-old federal employee, I feel like Congress is putting a target on my back for the next two years. I'm eligible to retire in 1,407 days. I hope I can hang in that long.


Steph L. - Nov 05, 2014 5:06:08 am PST #9731 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I actually just went and looked at the election day/day after Natter thread from 2004, and it was pretty grim around here. I forgot that the election returns all came down to Ohio, damn my state. Why we gotta DO that?

Also, man, I miss the people who used to post here.


-t - Nov 05, 2014 5:23:37 am PST #9732 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Still not thinking about election results.

My alarm did not go off this morning (because i did not set it, but let's not focus on how this is my fault, okay?) so I didn't wake up until 20 minutes before I was supposed to be here. And I'm not even well-rested, which is a trade-off I would accept.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 05, 2014 5:53:06 am PST #9733 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think the only position where my candidate won was county tax collector. Oh well, at least I'll like the person I'm handing my money over to so it can be mismanaged by the state legislature.

We elected an absolute snake that's been hungering for the governor's office for decades, a senator who consistently votes against measures that benefit students and the working class, and violated separation of powers by giving the state legislature veto power over rules changes in executive branch agencies.

I feel like the only reason the victory speeches didn't include "Bow down before your Dark Lord!" was fear that it might be mistaken as an endorsement of Obama.


Dana - Nov 05, 2014 6:01:37 am PST #9734 of 30000
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

My bedside clock (not the one I use for an alarm) said it was 10AM this morning when I woke up from trying to sleep away my cold. It wasn't until I got downstairs that I realized it was still on DST, and it was only 9AM. Which is fine, but now I'm convinced that it's an hour later than it really is, and I think it's going to be that way for the rest of the day.

As far as the elections go, I pretty much hated everyone yesterday, so I still hate everyone today.


Jessica - Nov 05, 2014 6:04:38 am PST #9735 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

there is no way I could ever, EVER feel as bad as I did after the 2004 election

Yep. THAT was a massive disappointment. This is just the regular midterm pendulum swing.

Every political columnist or podcaster I follow has been saying for weeks that the 2016 map looks terrible for the GOP, so I hope they enjoy their extra 2 years of legislative gridlock because Hillary is going to eat them for lunch in the next round.