It's this part that makes it BS.

Yeah. Take a tisane or tea, make it useless.

I figure by drinking tap water, I'm drinking the homeopathic remedy for everything.

Huh. I've generally thought homeopathic just meant "anything not western medicine" which is a pretty broad spectrum.

Oh, and meara, there is a "turn off notifications" you can select on any given post's drop down. I use it a lot for condolence posts and birthdays and stuff. I just wanted to say my thing, I don't need to see everyone else's thing.

Jesse! Though I am sad that I can't go to NO with you all, I think I will use the Southwest information to see if I can get a good deal to go down to LA for the Bora Bora trip.

Huh. I've generally thought homeopathic just meant "anything not western medicine" which is a pretty broad spectrum.

I think of "not Western medicine" as "alternative medicine" or "complementary medicine."

ION, I'm really torn about something. Tim's dad still lives alone, and he's kind of slid into eating mostly frozen dinners and frozen pizza for dinner, and frozen pancakes for breakfast. And one of the SILs, who I absolutely adore, has decided that this isn't okay, it's not healthy, and she's going to go over to his house with a bag of groceries like broccoli and kale and rice and oatmeal and clean out his frozen food. (I'm 99% sure her husband [Tim's brother] talked her out of it.)

I agree he could eat a LOT healthier. Based on his own accounts of his gastrointestinal health (or lack thereof), he certainly needs more fiber.

But he's still an autonomous adult, and if he wants to subsist on frozen sweet-and-sour chicken and frozen pancakes, well, then he gets to subsist on that. (I also know that a big part of why he gets frozen food is that he doesn't trust himself to cook, because he forgets to turn off the stove. And that's a whole separate issue -- he REALLY shouldn't still be living alone, but given that right now he *is* living alone, then I do understand why he gets food he can microwave.)

Anyway, SIL wants everyone to be in agreement that he needs to start getting groceries that aren't frozen pancakes, and I'm just not on board with that. He still gets to make his own choices, and he can choose pancakes. I personally think he'd feel better with more fruit and vegetables, but he gets to eat pancakes if that's what he wants. (Yes, Tim has tried to buy him fruit to eat WITH the pancakes, or with lunch or whatever, and it just rots. He doesn't eat it.)

I guess I'm not really torn. I'm in the camp of Let The Autonomous Adult Have His Pancakes. I just don't want to make waves about it by not falling in line with SIL.

I feel really bad about the fact I'm about to have a frozen pizza for dinner. And I do so a couple of times a week.

But making him buy perishables is useless unless someone's going to be cooking them for him as well.

David, if I get the ScarJo hair, there either will be recriminations or pictures if it actually looks good.

I'm in the camp of Let The Autonomous Adult Have His Pancakes. I just don't want to make waves about it by not falling in line with SIL.

If he's not going to cook because he doesn't trust himself to remember to turn off the stove, then SIL's plan isn't sustainable. Is she going to cook for him every week? Prepared food from the grocery deli that he can heat up + healthier frozen food choices would be a good compromise, but ONLY if Tim's dad is interested AND willing to try and improve his diet.

My father is an autonomous adult who refuses to improve his diet even with heart disease and diabetes. I can't make choices for him.

I'm all in favor of letting people make their own food choices. If she wants to help, maybe she could buy him bags of frozen veggies or fruit in the hopes he'll supplement his other food.

But throwing out the stuff he does have? SO not cool.

Yeah, unless someone's going to stand over him and make him cook, it's not going to work.

Jesse! Though I am sad that I can't go to NO with you all, I think I will use the Southwest information to see if I can get a good deal to go down to LA for the Bora Bora trip.

A lot of airlines are cheap right now, but I think it's literally just today, so. Good luck!