Lorne: Take care of yourself and ah, make sure fluffy is getting enough love. Gunn: Did he have anything? Fred: No. And who's fluffy? Are you fluffy? Gunn: He called me fluffy? Fred: He said make sure…wait. You don't think he was referring to anything of mine that's fluffy, do you? Because that would just be inappropriate.

'Conviction (1)'


Natter 73: Chuck Norris only wishes he could Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Jul 20, 2014 4:28:41 pm PDT #2379 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Starsky and Hutch were my first slash, and I didn't even know slash existed back then.

They are very handsy. I have not one issue with the tone of the movie. Come on!

I find it interesting, the difference in expectations in the genre. S&H (this is season 1) almost feels more naturalistic, although we were supposed to think they were badasses, right? 2014 asks a lot more of its actioners. Rooms don't get cleared, so many people get shot in the back with no mention, never mind any of the gun hygiene TV has fed us in the last ten years.

And clearly no one is hitting the gym for their shirtless scenes, or even just to make the fence-jumping scenes look better--the stunt swapping is sloppy (Starsky's double has a monobrow), and the bits the guys do themselves shaky.

I have to admit, even though I saw some during the time it was airing, I was too young to know the show's intentions, and am judging it in a post Hills St Blues world, never mind NYPD Blue and The Wire.

But they went white cop-black kid shooting pretty damned fast, not to mention addicting Hutch to drugs. The tone is very uneven.


Steph L. - Jul 20, 2014 4:42:57 pm PDT #2380 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Any migraine people, here's a weird question: do you ever get visual hallucinations -- not a classic aura -- that precede a migraine? I've never had a classic aura with my migraines, but I'm having some of the physical symptoms that precede a migraine for me (including vertigo). Only today, I've had a couple of visual hallucinations, like so: I thought Tim had on 2 different shoes (he didn't), I thought a rat scuttled across the driveway (no rat), and I saw a face in Kato's dog food (no Jesus kibble).

That could all be me being crazy. But I was wondering if anyone has ever had specific non-aura hallucinations with their migraines.

The floating head next to me told me to ask.


meara - Jul 20, 2014 4:46:23 pm PDT #2381 of 30000

I have not, Teppy, but I don't get aura either. M mom thought she was having a stroke the first time she had a visual migraine though. And I know someone else who's had migraines where the only symptom was awful vertigo--apparently it took forever to be diagnosed.

And now the house seems very quiet indeed. DH and I are missing our old pup a lot. And HPF is making a new list of arguments for new dog. Not gonna happen in the short term, but maybe in the long.

Aw, sad.


Steph L. - Jul 20, 2014 4:49:51 pm PDT #2382 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

And I know someone else who's had migraines where the only symptom was awful vertigo--apparently it took forever to be diagnosed.

My mom's migraines are primarily vertigo, and her she just takes a massive dose of Ativan for it.

I've never had aura before, and the hallucinations might just be an oddball coincidence. But I thought there might be a connection.


§ ita § - Jul 20, 2014 4:53:42 pm PDT #2383 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's new to me, Steph. But I'm not consistent with auras, since I usually have a migraine. However with the bulged disk and diet changes I'm getting enough space for them to stop and start again, and my aura has verified itself as lights running up and down the outside edges of my vision.

I have had, when it's really bad, the inability to tell if my eyes are open or not, which is...I don't even know how that can be. But that is more like your thing?

Good going, Starsky. Perp just recognised your car parked right in front of his apartment so he got away to threaten another day. You suck worse than Dean Winchester.


Steph L. - Jul 20, 2014 4:55:59 pm PDT #2384 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

But that is more like your thing?

Mine was just a split-second thing, like, I was *positive* I saw a rat, and then nothing was there. (And maybe there was a rat and it really did scuttle super-fast.) Like, one second I was sure Tim had 2 different shoes, and the next second they were obviously the same.

That's as best as I can explain it.


Hil R. - Jul 20, 2014 4:58:19 pm PDT #2385 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

My dad gets just the migraine auras, without the pain. He had no idea what it was until I started getting migraines as a teenager and tried to explain them to him what they were like, and he recognized that as that weird feeling that he sometimes gets.


Jesse - Jul 20, 2014 5:01:56 pm PDT #2386 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Non-migraine-related, I see things that aren't there out of the corner of my eyes a fair amount.


Hil R. - Jul 20, 2014 5:03:23 pm PDT #2387 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I just went out to dinner with my family, and in the ladies' room, painted on the wall, was "The weather started getting rough, the tiny ship was tossed..." I asked my dad to go into the men's room and see if there was anything painted on the wall. He gave me a weird look, but did it. The men's room had, "If not for the courage of the fearless crew, the Minnow would be lost."


Steph L. - Jul 20, 2014 5:04:51 pm PDT #2388 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Non-migraine-related, I see things that aren't there out of the corner of my eyes a fair amount.

Yeah, a quick google is telling me that with an aura, sparklies, waviness, lines, and even repeating patterns that "unroll" like a window shade are common, but not seeing things that aren't there. This could just be a coincidence. Or it could have really been Jesus in the dog food.