That's not what making out sounds like -- unless I'm doing it wrong?

Willow ,'Same Time, Same Place'


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Atropa - Jan 12, 2015 11:07:25 am PST #14313 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

And, like I said, I don't actually know anyone else who gets annoyed by "reach out" in place of "contact," so in this, I am well aware that I am a crackpot with very particular preferences.

sidles over to Teppy

I'm with you on this. Probably because the only people I've dealt with who have used "reach out" instead of "contact" are also the type who spout whatever management-flavor-of-the-month jargon is trendy. Like "Thanks for leaning in", which is a phrase that will send me into eye-rolling rage.


brenda m - Jan 12, 2015 11:08:17 am PST #14314 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Really? I would think "thanks for reaching out" predates the use in the business context.

But I'm a fan of reach out. Contacted to me implies there has been some sort of interaction, while reached out could mean sent an email or vm but have not necessarily interacted yet.

Wait! I'm right about reach out. Proof [link]


brenda m - Jan 12, 2015 11:08:48 am PST #14315 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Thanks for leaning in

The what now?


Atropa - Jan 12, 2015 11:11:47 am PST #14316 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Really? I would think "thanks for reaching out" predates the use in the business context.

Then it's been horribly abused in the corporate world, especially in tech.

I'm all for making up words! I'm all for casual language! But because I'm a tech writer/editor, people giving me information that is full of made-up marketing speak and buzzword fluff is a huge, HUGE hot button for me. During the second week of this job, I informed my manager that there was no way I was using the term "searchandizing" in the technical doc set. His reply was something like "OH THANK G-D, you have a spine".


-t - Jan 12, 2015 11:12:17 am PST #14317 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I actually meant to say I was pretty descriptivist earlier.

But not so descriptivist to be able to use prescriptivist to mean descriptivist and expect people to understand me. Just mistyped what my brain thought.

"Reach out, reach out and touch someone..." I don't remember what that's from. Phone company ad?


-t - Jan 12, 2015 11:13:18 am PST #14318 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Searchandizing? I cannot decipher that.


Steph L. - Jan 12, 2015 11:14:36 am PST #14319 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Ha! The Four Tops use of "reach out" is exactly my problem with it being used by every corporate PR person: it strikes me as implying a level of emotion and even intimacy (or potential thereof) that "contact" doesn't. (Otherwise the song would be "Contact me; I'll be there.") (And now I'm thinking about Blondie's "Call Me.")


Sophia Brooks - Jan 12, 2015 11:15:21 am PST #14320 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I am going to draw the "threads" together and say one of my peeves is when people use midrift instead of midriff. No bare midrifts!

"whoa" is spelled "woah"

I really think of those as two different words!

Me too! "woah" is what Keanu says.


Steph L. - Jan 12, 2015 11:16:47 am PST #14321 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

"Reach out, reach out and touch someone..." I don't remember what that's from. Phone company ad?

See, that use, too, implies emotion/intimacy. I just don't think that's the correct connotation when the PR department of Widgets Inc. talks about trying to get ahold of someone on the phone.


Atropa - Jan 12, 2015 11:17:51 am PST #14322 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

"Leaning in" is usually said by female managers who are trying to encourage their female employees to sacrifice a notion of work/life balance and personal time. Because the workplace would be perfect if all the women took on more work and proved they were goal-oriented go-getters. My horrible ex-boss/Dolores Umbridge clone loved the idea of "leaning in". For her employees, not for her.