I'm a vision of hotliness, and how weird is that? Mystical comas. You know, if you can stand the horror of a higher power hijacking your mind and body so that it can give birth to itself, I really recommend 'em.

Cordelia ,'You're Welcome'


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Steph L. - Jan 12, 2015 11:16:47 am PST #14321 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

"Reach out, reach out and touch someone..." I don't remember what that's from. Phone company ad?

See, that use, too, implies emotion/intimacy. I just don't think that's the correct connotation when the PR department of Widgets Inc. talks about trying to get ahold of someone on the phone.


Atropa - Jan 12, 2015 11:17:51 am PST #14322 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

"Leaning in" is usually said by female managers who are trying to encourage their female employees to sacrifice a notion of work/life balance and personal time. Because the workplace would be perfect if all the women took on more work and proved they were goal-oriented go-getters. My horrible ex-boss/Dolores Umbridge clone loved the idea of "leaning in". For her employees, not for her.


shrift - Jan 12, 2015 11:29:29 am PST #14323 of 30000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

"Leaning in" is usually said by female managers who are trying to encourage their female employees to sacrifice a notion of work/life balance and personal time.

I gather they are taking this from Sheryl Sandberg's book "Lean In". I don't think I managed to finish reading the whole thing.


-t - Jan 12, 2015 11:34:06 am PST #14324 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

See, that use, too, implies emotion/intimacy. I just don't think that's the correct connotation when the PR department of Widgets Inc. talks about trying to get ahold of someone on the phone.

That distinction works for me. But it makes me think your friend thanking you for reaching out to her would be using it correctly.

Me too! "woah" is what Keanu says.

I have heard people say that before and I don't get it. Keanu says "whoa" just like I do.


Zenkitty - Jan 12, 2015 11:37:03 am PST #14325 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Zenkitty - Jan 12, 2015 11:37:22 am PST #14326 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Atropa - Jan 12, 2015 11:37:37 am PST #14327 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I gather they are taking this from Sheryl Sandberg's book "Lean In".

Yep!

I don't think I managed to finish reading the whole thing.

I passed on reading it when it was being handed around the office at my last job, because I knew it would make me furious.

Speaking of my previous job and their ... unique approach to employees, I found out through the grapevine that anyone slightly outside of corporate America business casual has been subtly encouraged to change their appearance, or has been "performance managed" out.


Zenkitty - Jan 12, 2015 11:37:44 am PST #14328 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

And, like I said, I don't actually know anyone else who gets annoyed by "reach out" in place of "contact," so in this, I am well aware that I am a crackpot with very particular preferences.

Oh, what did I just say? ;-)

We never used the phrase "reach out to" in my workplace until our newest assistant editor was hired. She brought it with her, and now it has spread like a bright and cheery fungus throughout the department. I will not say it.

"Reach out" is what you do to distant loved ones, to troubled youth, to homeless veterans, to people who donated to your campaign last year. I dislike the use of it in the context of non-solicitation business communication.

However, it must be noted that around the 1920s, prescriptivists like me were spitting mad over the use of the word "contact" in that very context. If you are not literally touching them, you are NOT in contact with them! There are plenty of perfectly good words that mean "communicate with", there is no need to drag "contact" into service of that meaning! So... yeah. Ever on the losing side of the language battle, here.


Zenkitty - Jan 12, 2015 11:39:41 am PST #14329 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

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Connie Neil - Jan 12, 2015 11:42:12 am PST #14330 of 30000
brillig

"Reach out" always has a tone of desperation to it. "I'm reaching out, hoping someone will save me! Please, take my hand!"