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meara - Dec 29, 2014 9:30:23 am PST #13491 of 30000

Yes, small child (and multiple pets) means we're going with the "slap some athlete's-foot cream on it" theory. I figure if it doesn't clear up in a few more days, then I go to the doctor.

I answered some work emails from my phone this morning, but one person keeps bouncing back, even though it's the right address...and I replied-all on another thing and she was like 'yeah, that's weird, send it again?" so I have no idea what's going on.


Steph L. - Dec 29, 2014 9:35:17 am PST #13492 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Gah, my boss did it again -- short version is that I edited a commentary that basically said "The study by [Author 1], published in this issue, showed a median value of 5 years. This is similar to a report by [Author 2], who showed an average of 4.5 years."

Boss changed "average" to "median" because Author 1 reported a median. But we don't know if Author 2 reported a median, because it wasn't a study we published -- it was just a reference cited, which we don't read because we don't have infinite time. So since we don't know what the content of Author 2's reference says, I didn't change "average" to "median" just to be matchy.

I even explained that to Boss (in a more professional manner), and she said, "Well, they were inconsistent, so we'll see if they notice is when they return them!"

I don't think she even read what I said. Was I not clear? The commentary was on Author 1, whose article is published in the same issue of JAMA, so we can literally read it with our eyes and see it uses the word "median" verbatim. But because Author 2 is just a reference from another journal, we didn't read it and therefore can't know whether "average" is correct or not, so we can't just change the word because we want them to match.

I feel like everything I'm saying is coming out in some other language today. How is that not clear? We can't just change things for which we have no reference to confirm it should be changed!

I get that I make mistakes and Boss needs to give me feedback on that, but that wasn't a mistake -- it was a deliberate choice based on the information we could access.

Seriously, I'm ready for that job as the village idiot. At least no one can tell me I'm doing it wrong.


msbelle - Dec 29, 2014 9:48:10 am PST #13493 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Psst, if you are correct about things, you can't really be the village idiot.


-t - Dec 29, 2014 9:48:43 am PST #13494 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Seriously, I'm ready for that job as the village idiot. At least no one can tell me I'm doing it wrong.

Just because it wouldn't make sense does not mean it wouldn't happen.


Zenkitty - Dec 29, 2014 9:56:25 am PST #13495 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Does your boss know there's a meaningful difference between "average" and "median" and you can't just substitute one for the other as if they're synonyms?


Steph L. - Dec 29, 2014 9:59:25 am PST #13496 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Does your boss know there's a meaningful difference between "average" and "median" and you can't just substitute one for the other as if they're synonyms?

She totally does. I wanted to ask her if she's just going through my work really quickly and missed the part where one sentence referred to a median cited in reference 1, but the sentence that uses the word "average" refers to reference 2. I feel like she went through my work so quickly that she thinks *both* sentences refer to reference 1 and therefore should say "median".

And when the author corrections come back and the author tells us it should say "average", she won't remember that I'm NOT an idiot who doesn't know how to edit. Damn it, I totally own my mistakes, but this is NOT a mistake.


Zenkitty - Dec 29, 2014 9:59:38 am PST #13497 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

we'll see if they notice is when they return them!

No, they probably won't, because they probably aren't reading with an eye to making sure you didn't change their words. I've had more than one author "confess" to me that he didn't actually read his proofs. Your boss shouldn't be changing their words without flagging them on it unless it's an obvious misspelling or typo. tsk

Totally on your side. If you're the village idiot, we need two villages.


Steph L. - Dec 29, 2014 10:01:57 am PST #13498 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Your boss shouldn't be changing their words without flagging them on it unless it's an obvious misspelling or typo.

I actually *asked* her if we should query the author to see if changing "average" to "median" is okay, and that's when she said "They were inconsistent, so we'll see what they say!"

She's really normally not careless, so I think maybe she's just massively overworked and going through my stuff really quickly.


Steph L. - Dec 29, 2014 10:04:56 am PST #13499 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

No, wait -- I just checked the copy we sent, and she *did* specifically query the author "Okay to change to 'median', since that term is used in the previous sentence?"

So we'll look crazy, but at least the author can give us a definitive "No! You people are crazy!"


Zenkitty - Dec 29, 2014 10:08:40 am PST #13500 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I just checked the copy we sent, and she *did* specifically query the author

Whew! I was actually worried.

I need a IV Vodka Valium, stat. Push 2 cc's of Fukitol.