Well, look at you. All dressed up in big sister's clothes.

Faith ,'End of Days'


Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cass - Oct 04, 2013 6:32:11 pm PDT #7991 of 30000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Good chair form and padding and that's just the solid comfort of knowing you'll have hours of fires to sit and read by... Very comfy.

Jesse, I believe so. !!!!


le nubian - Oct 04, 2013 6:40:43 pm PDT #7992 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

So, one fear, Typo Boy, is that if Obama takes any one of the actions you describe, foreign governments may or may not be thrilled. So we still have governmental instability and some payment of bills, but if Congress is still intransigent, foreign markets might not be thrilled.


Typo Boy - Oct 04, 2013 6:52:39 pm PDT #7993 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Why would taking perfectly legal actions to pay our bills bother other nations? It is not as though Congress is going to suddenly become reasonable if they actually gain concession from this homicidal chickenshit. What are the negative consequences we are not already suffering? Congress is pissed? Pissed is what most of the Republican Congress do. The more they win the angrier they are.


Cass - Oct 04, 2013 7:06:50 pm PDT #7994 of 30000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Why would taking perfectly legal actions

Because I'm hoping that much like claiming to 'stand your ground' against an unarmed teen in a hoodie and shooting them dead, it's about more than what is precisely legal.

I'm using an example that I think you'll side with as also thinking is horrifying.

Just because you can, you shouldn't. If we're not so much better than that, I might have a problem with being proud to be an American. I'll be an American. But I am going to be so disappointed in our choices.


le nubian - Oct 04, 2013 7:18:58 pm PDT #7995 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Typo, there is legal, but Congress (the 20-30 Tea Party of the GOP) is threatening our democracy and democratic process of governing. To the outside world, they will accept our $$, but I can imagine that the $$ as an investment would look a lot less attractive.


aurelia - Oct 04, 2013 7:24:28 pm PDT #7996 of 30000
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Welp, that's the end of last year's Halloween candy. That's almost like an accomplishment.

Perfect timing!

what things do I need to put on my wish list? favorite things in your house? GO!

Art. I want more of it. This is next on my wishlist [link] .

And an area rug (but I'm disinclined to give the cats an expensive puking spot).


Typo Boy - Oct 04, 2013 7:26:05 pm PDT #7997 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah I can understand that would not want us to start shooting Congressmembers until the Democrats were in the majority. But aside from being legal, what is morally wrong with Consols? Or even with the Mint coin. Right now in order to provide economic stimulus we do quantitative easing, which basically amounts to creating money out of nothing and giving it away to rich people. No special law was passed to do it. It was a creative step the executive took to stimulate the economy since nothing could pass Congress. So all of the sudden, QE is still OK but creating money out of nothing to avoid the full faith and credit of the US being defaulted on is immoral? And if it is, what the heck is immoral about issuing a type of bond the stupid dept limit does not cover? Comparing it to George Zimmerman does not answer. I freely concede that stuff that is legal can be immoral. I'm pretty sure I can refute any arguments that the first is immoral. And I can't even see a moral argument to refute for the second. (There are practical reasons to prefer the first, but the practical arguments against the second don't outweigh the practical arguments against default.)


Typo Boy - Oct 04, 2013 7:28:41 pm PDT #7998 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Le Nubian, I can see that the existence of the tea party is bad for out nation. I don't see that outmaneuvering some of their unpatriotic actions by legal and moral means makes things any worse.


-t - Oct 04, 2013 7:31:10 pm PDT #7999 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

This is next on my wishlist

Oh, that's very nice. I need to get all my art up on the walls before I buy more, I think, but I'll have to remember that. If I have wall space left at that point.


Zenkitty - Oct 04, 2013 7:32:35 pm PDT #8000 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

what things do I need to put on my wish list? favorite things in your house? GO!

I like my LED flameless candles.

And an area rug (but I'm disinclined to give the cats an expensive puking spot).

My sanity is often saved by my Bissell SpotBot. Cat barfs, all I do is pick up the worst of it with a paper towel, set the Bot down on the spot, let it run 6 minutes, it's clean and done without much effort.