Well, if we followed the recipe...should be cake. A demon-violence-free-zone cake.

Lorne ,'Why We Fight'


Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


flea - Oct 04, 2013 8:34:02 am PDT #7903 of 30000
information libertarian

Suzi, I hope you are okay. It is so shocking to lose a work-friend.

I rode the bus in to work from a presentation in the community this morning, and it's been 20 minutes and I still smell STRONGLY of the terrible perfume someone on the bus was wearing. Any tips on how to de-stinkify myself? I took off my jacket, and I'm at work, so further efforts need to be work-friendly (like, I cannot take a shower, or rub a lemon on myself, or stuff like that.) I mean, I can BARELY STAND myself. HELP.


P.M. Marc - Oct 04, 2013 8:35:00 am PDT #7904 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Flea, where's it clinging to? If it's clinging to your hair, can you wet it?


Strix - Oct 04, 2013 8:44:43 am PDT #7905 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Suzi, I am so sorry to hear about your co-worker. What a shock.

meara, I don't know. She said (in her text) that "maybe one day we can be close again but I need you to give me a lot of space. I have blocked you on fb because I don't want to see you at all."

I don't follow the logic on one day we can be "close" if she won't communicate with me, and ditches me (via text! have some fucking balls) because I missed two yoga classes she teaches because I was sick. She's free to do what she feels is right for her, but if she can't stick with me through the bad times, when I championed her when everyone else wrote her off, then, well, I will focus my energy on being healthier and maintaining friendships with the people who stick by me when I'm struggling hard. I still care for her, and wish her well -- I am loyal -- but I am still angry and I don't know if I can ever fully trust her again.

But mostly, I am trying to just let it go. I can't control her feelings; I can only work on how I react to things.

(Sorry to dump, but I don't have a therapy appointment for a few weeks, and I'm trying hard to take the high road and not enmesh friends in this, so I'm not talking about it much. The last time she got in a fight with a mutual turned into this years long mess of "if she shows up, i won't show up" and I don't want to do that. Of course, ironically, I was the one who mediated a reconciliation between the two. @@)


Amy - Oct 04, 2013 8:47:28 am PDT #7906 of 30000
Because books.

Oh god, Suzi. I'm so sorry.

Strix, this:

I can't control her feelings; I can only work on how I react to things.

is such a hard thing to learn, but it's absolutely right. I'm sorry she flipped out. Like Jesse said earlier, it sounds like she's got issues of her own.


SuziQ - Oct 04, 2013 8:48:35 am PDT #7907 of 30000
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

This is the second co-worker in our group to die in the last year. The first woman died in early February after a brief fight with cancer. It was a shock, but we at least had an inkling of a warning. The woman who died last night was the group admin assistant when I started in CO and has since moved up into a more technical position. Both were well know, well liked, full of heart, made you smile when you talked with them and left (will leave) gapping holes in the office.


Kate P. - Oct 04, 2013 8:55:52 am PDT #7908 of 30000
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Suzi, I'm so sorry. That's so awful, and shocking, and sad.

Strix, it definitely sounds like your friend is dealing (or not dealing) with her own issues, especially since she has a history of this kind of shit. I'm sorry she's acting so callously toward you. Good on you for recognizing what you can and can't control in this situation.


Kate P. - Oct 04, 2013 8:57:48 am PDT #7909 of 30000
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

And on a happier note, Burrell, I am SO happy that your sister is doing better today! I've been thinking of you all week, and I will continue wishing her as much recovery as is possible.


SuziQ - Oct 04, 2013 9:08:03 am PDT #7910 of 30000
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

And on a happier note, Burrell, I am SO happy that your sister is doing better today! I've been thinking of you all week, and I will continue wishing her as much recovery as is possible.

OMG, so much this. I love the image of her chomping on a bagel and planning for the future.


Jesse - Oct 04, 2013 9:09:05 am PDT #7911 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh my god, Suzi, how sad and awful. I'm sorry.


§ ita § - Oct 04, 2013 9:22:03 am PDT #7912 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Suzi, how shocking and awful!

I decided on a "sick" day. I've attended two meetings, set up one, have another to go, and am awaiting a phone call from the CIO (I wanted her attention, I sure got some, but this wasn't how...).

Now I'm lying back down. After a nectarine.