This is not funny. This... this is a morality tale about the evils of sake.

Simon ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Strix - Sep 13, 2013 6:33:32 am PDT #5134 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I have drunk champagne while getting ready, but honestly, of the 5 weddings I have been an attendant in, 3 of them involved getting the bride discreetly high before the wedding, and 1, my mom offered my h.s. bestie (the bride) and Xanax because she was so nervous.

Granted, the high-as-fuck weddings, one was my eco-caver friends, the two most competent people I know, to whom I will fight in case of a zombie apocalypse (and the wedding was at a cave site) and the other, the same year, 1995, was a year after we graduated college and we were all still huge potheads.

They were LOVELY weddings!


§ ita § - Sep 13, 2013 6:43:09 am PDT #5135 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I admit I haven't paid too much attention to when the alcohol started being available, except for the one where the bridal party was an hour late, and the mother of the bride got hammered waiting for us, and heckled throughout the ceremony.

I think the couple separated less than six months in, but still, feel free to have open bars if you're not related to me.


Burrell - Sep 13, 2013 6:46:48 am PDT #5136 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Oh Steph!


Theodosia - Sep 13, 2013 6:51:07 am PDT #5137 of 30000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

With alcoholic family members at the wedding, I'd seriously consider giving the reception partyers drink chits rather than open bar, with maybe gift certificates for those who don't want the chits, because virtue should be rewarded.


Jesse - Sep 13, 2013 6:57:09 am PDT #5138 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Ugh, drinking can be so fraught.


Nora Deirdre - Sep 13, 2013 7:05:07 am PDT #5139 of 30000
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

With alcoholic family members at the wedding, I'd seriously consider giving the reception partyers drink chits rather than open bar, with maybe gift certificates for those who don't want the chits, because virtue should be rewarded.

I don't think drinking is inherently non-virtuous. Even if it's alcoholics doing it.

I have been to dry weddings because of (non-reformed) alcoholic parents, and one of the many reasons Tom and I eloped was to avoid having to deal with that stuff. It was just too hard and I knew that I didn't want to deal with it at all.


Hil R. - Sep 13, 2013 7:06:28 am PDT #5140 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

At my cousins' b'nai mitzvah a few months ago, I got carded. It was ridiculous. I didn't have my license with me, since I was in a fancy dress with no pockets and a little tiny purse, so I just put in the purse the things I thought I'd need. I told the bartender that I was 32 and had been legal to drink for over a decade, and I even went and found my mom and several other older relatives who would vouch for me, including the mother of the b'nai mitzvah kids, but no good. I looked too young, so no ID, no drink.


Jessica - Sep 13, 2013 7:13:10 am PDT #5141 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

with maybe gift certificates for those who don't want the chits, because virtue should be rewarded.

I don't think drinking is inherently non-virtuous. Even if it's alcoholics doing it.

Yeah, I have a serious problem with "rewarding virtue" in this context.


Amy - Sep 13, 2013 7:17:43 am PDT #5142 of 30000
Because books.

I think Theo meant that it's virtuous to abstain if you're purposely trying to. Just like it would be virtuous to abstain if you were trying to stop smoking, or eating a lot of refined sugar. Virtue can mean "a commendable quality or trait," and in that instance it would be willpower or perseverance.


Theodosia - Sep 13, 2013 7:20:15 am PDT #5143 of 30000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I meant rewarding virtue as in giving the recovering alcoholics a nice present if the drink chips are useless to them. (And it might as well also be offered to anyone who'd rather have a gift certificate than a drink.)

I rarely drink alcohol, most of it tastes awful to me -- I don't refrain from any sense of 'virtue.'