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Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


le nubian - Aug 22, 2013 9:19:37 am PDT #3302 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

The workshop is not a waste of time as I feared. But the current presenter is saying something controversial:

in dance and art and other creative endeavors, research may not be as important.

Uh...half the faculty in the room started objecting strongly to this statement. Good grief.


Amy - Aug 22, 2013 9:22:46 am PDT #3303 of 30000
Because books.

even if I could, I wouldn't. Too many memories. Too much baggage. Too much everything.

I completely get that.

in dance and art and other creative endeavors, research may not be as important

I'm not sure what he means. Like ... researching an area or a time period for a particular novel? Or simply knowing the history of your medium?


le nubian - Aug 22, 2013 9:31:27 am PDT #3304 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Amy,

it was a woman and I am not sure what she meant either. She subsequently talked about examples you gave (if you are writing a novel set in x, research that), but I feel even that is too narrow a definition of research.

I'm reminded by the lead singer of Smash Mouth who claimed he didn't listen to other pop music and just "created' the songs. But if you listen to their songs, they are reminiscent of 1960s & 1970s music. Part of creativity, it seems to me, is learning what has been done before - no matter your field or discipline.


Dana - Aug 22, 2013 9:32:45 am PDT #3305 of 30000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Well, art and music aren't "real" disciplines, so obviously the rules are lax. Also, artists shouldn't expect to get paid or valued as highly as any other professions.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 22, 2013 10:36:11 am PDT #3306 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I do think the creative process can be largely sub-/unconscious, and people can "just do stuff" without being aware of all the influences that are affecting their work.


sumi - Aug 22, 2013 11:06:06 am PDT #3307 of 30000
Art Crawl!!!

Teppy - excellent news.


le nubian - Aug 22, 2013 11:17:50 am PDT #3308 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Matt,

I agree with you, but I think that's the role of higher education: to make the implicit explicit. If we (as faculty) aren't here in part to do that, then why the fuck do I have this job?

What we do in the classroom are a series of intellectual exercises - as well as creative.


Zenkitty - Aug 22, 2013 11:44:54 am PDT #3309 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I wore black trousers and a black-and-white striped shirt, both things I already had, to my mother's funeral. After the funeral, I threw the shirt away.


Theodosia - Aug 22, 2013 12:03:42 pm PDT #3310 of 30000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

There would have been enough time between Mom's death and the funeral to go shopping (she died on the Friday night of Labor Day... so not a great weekend for malls and such) but my body image demons were way way too loud, so black trousers and a black shirt and a very nice black and white blazer it was.


shrift - Aug 22, 2013 12:19:38 pm PDT #3311 of 30000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I had six meetings today. My brain hurts, you guys.