I am so, so glad not to be single and attempting to date. I would probably stab everyone a lot.

I am single, but I am so so glad I am not attempting to date anymore. For this reason. Cannot deal anymore.

It always makes me think of the story of John Ruskin's unconsummated marriage (a Victorian art critic, he apparently did not realize that real women, unlike marble ones, had pubic hair, and was appalled).

I've encountered a few articles on waxing/no waxing and it's surprising how many guys reaction's are as JZ mentioned. I've always thought of them as Neo-Ruskins in a way. Except they're idealized woman comes from porn not art.

I'd like to think that, were I dating, I'd be dating people who were old enough to remember pubic hair. And possibly the sort of people who would respect my personal grooming choices. And hopefully I'd figure that out before we got to any potentially seeing pubic hair situations. (Nope, still really glad not to be dating.)

You'd think a guy with more than two brain cells would realize that *he* has pubic hair, so women probably will, too. I guess there aren't that many brain cells around anymore.

One thing that was sort of shocking to me was watching Lovelace and realizing I was actually startled to see a bush. You just never do anymore. In movies, I mean.

Thank you, Ginger. Will read up a bit. The movie was great. K-Bug and G got to see me go through a few cycles of pain. Even when I tried to hide it. Oh well, it is what it is. I'm trying ice and heat now that I'm home if for no other reason but to provide a distraction to myself.

I've told CJ not to expect a girl to shave/wax anything he isn't willing to shave/wax on himself. That being said, I'll admit I'm a bit lost on entering the dating pool myself.

I slept with a guy who shaved his legs (and he had a lot of leg--he was 6'5). He was just entering the stubble stage. I guess your average sex-expecting woman might have touched up before seeing the person they'd thought they dated four or so years ago, but since he was doing it for cycling, I don't think it occurred to him.

THAT'S A FUCK OF A LOT OF STUBBLE THERE, KT.

I mean, it was still fun, but if I was his GF I might have to lay down some rules for my own integumental safety.

Oh dear, ita. I am trying to imagine and... ow.

I've told CJ not to expect a girl to shave/wax anything he isn't willing to shave/wax on himself.

A lot of guys shave, or at least trim, their chest hair these days. Pubic hair too.

I give you what I hope is at least half in jest, the spornosexual. Warning: you can't unsee it, so click with caution. Moderately NSFW.

I suspect it started with the porn everywhere but a lot of younger girls (than me, still sexually and emotionally mature) just started shaving and have kept going. Seems to be a trend. Like frosted tips. Then again, a LOT of people are younger than me. So I don't know when it started seeming normal. Growing up, the glimpses of porn I saw, women had pubic hair usually.

Then again, I am bitter I am expected to shave my underarms. I get razor burn and ingrowns (autocorrect wanted to make that 'I frowns' which is also accurate.) under my arms. But I willingly shave my legs every shower because the hair is easy, it keeps my skin unbumpy and I don't like stubble. So even across my own body, my hair, opinions and mileage vary.

but he's also saying she has a criminal record for lewd acts--that she was caught by the cops rocking a car fingering a woman. Now, that's a hell of a finger, but that's hardly the point--

Okay the whole sutuation is terrible but, hey, that's a hell of a fingering.

My suspicion is that it's a result of how many people are basically introduced to sex through porn, because it was big in porn long before it took off (us, so to speak). In which case, not actually a big deal, just a lack of experience (uh, sorry, keep hitting the double entendres) with pubic hair IRL.

I think if I weren't the mom of a preteen it might not hit my "hell the FUCK no!" button so hard, but as it is it looks to me like wanting to pretend to yourself that your lover is premenstrual.

I agree with all of this. Also:

I've told CJ not to expect a girl to shave/wax anything he isn't willing to shave/wax on himself.

I've told Tim he'd better be fine with me not shaving my ladybush, and he said, "Sure, as long as you're fine with me shaving mine." So...anecdotal TMI on guys doing it. Or at least one guy.