Oh yeah, men's shirts usually don't have that much of a vee, right?

They make "deep V" shirts for men now, yes? I believe I learned this from Happy Endings, so, grain of salt I suppose.

Arms up, arch back, t-shirt goes up over the bellybutton. As I recall.

Regular wakey-wakey arching, or I'm-Kat-doing-a-back-bend arching? I mean, my women's cut shirts are all short enough to show belly if I do much stretching at all, but that's part of the point. I am only one inch shorter than the average guy, and stretching in a medium tee--well, it doesn't do much.

And, like Sophia says, usually they're talking about big guys--the example I hit, there's an inch between them, and a round neck is showing clavicle. I've found women's cut v-necks show a lot of clavicle (I can have my portacath accessed in one without damaging it, but I haven't really worn any men's. The ones I see (thank you, SPN fandom) are more likely to show navels. Men-hussies, the both of them.

Oh, and is that "they're wearing my clothes I own them now I must fuck them immediately" a thing that happens with relevant regularity in life? My sister and I swap clothes a lot and I'm happy to say it does nothing for me (see, fandom makes me check all sorts of things).

Though, on the not-as-normal tip--is is supposed to be gross to sleep with someone a friend or family member boinked? I had a cousin once removed (generation older) tell me her ex was superb, I should totally bone him, so I did (it was okay, but I've later learnt said cousin didn't discover vibrators until...age 50? 55? and possibly also masturbating (at least to orgasm)). But I got so much shit from said cousin's sister that I though there was an incontrovertible law I'd broken.

I totally suggest my sister sleep with the guys I've slept with who were amazing in bed. YOU ALL SHOULD. And she'd give me (I'm not sure about all of you, though) the same leeway.

All of my shirts ride up when I stretch. Normal stretching not backbends.

Grace is still I surgery according to the computer tracking. It's been 90 minutes, when usually it is shorter. Good thing or bad? I fear they have tried decannulation then had an issue and had to put the trache back and had to re-cut because the stoma closes fast.

I just made S. stand up and raise his arms above his head -- not even stretching, really -- and his t-shirt rode up enough to show hipbone.

I just came back from lunch with my mom and burst into tears. And we had a lovely time! My guess is heat and hormones and general anxiety, but I really just want to nap now.

Fingers still crossed for Grace, Kat.

JZ, I was never much for costumes but I loved it when my grandma brought me a grass skirt. We need to do something about the gun thing, because a. It's beginning to remind me of the shot-up cafeterias in the eighties(Insert Gavin de Becker story here) and 2. I'm beginning not to be afraid, just sort of scanning to see how big the body count is, and that is *completely fucked* and I'm wondering if that might be my soul dying, and I totally have a problem with that(Not that the world needs me to be all in a lather, but I do have several friends who are gunshot survivors.)

Much ~ma for Grace!

Regular wakey-wakey arching, or I'm-Kat-doing-a-back-bend arching?

More like standing-next-to-me-and-showing-off-his-awesome-abs stretching. Which, to be clear, I appreciated.

is it supposed to be gross to sleep with someone a friend or family member boinked?

Some people seem to think it's weird, but I never understood why. Presuming neither of the persons involved is riddled with disease, what difference does it make? (My only exception to that is someone sleeping with someone and also that someone's parent, which squicks me but logically I don't know why.)

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is is supposed to be gross to sleep with someone a friend or family member boinked?

Stereotypical Girl Code would say yes, I guess, but I think in real life it depends on the relationships involved. Have sex with someone I had sex with? Eh. Start dating my ex I'm not quite over yet? That's a different story.

Briefly de-lurks...

Epic, where are you editing Engineers? My employer (IEEE) will probably be hiring editors soon, you should keep an eye on the jobs site.

Zen, I'm at a teeny-tiny site under a ginormous Corporate Behemoth (name kept confidential to cover my heinie). We're in "turbine engine controls". The last place was "electronics adhesives". But the name IEEE is definitely not unknown to me, and I definitely will keep an eye on your site, thanks a lot.

Grace has no trache at the moment! She got panicky after she went to the bathroom in the under counter cabinet and wanted to be suctioned.