Don't you just love this party? Everything's so fancy, and there's some kind of hot cheese over there.

Kaylee ,'Shindig'


Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Hil R. - May 07, 2014 6:00:08 pm PDT #27155 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

There were two processed meat substitutes available in 1910: Protose and Nuttolene. This cookbook assumes that readers are familiar with both. As far as I've been able to tell from Googling, both were canned, and made from a combination of grains and peanuts. Both were still being produced until just a few years ago (or, at least, something with those names -- I'm sure the recipe changed over the years.) Protose was one of Dr. Kellogg's products.


Laura - May 07, 2014 6:05:39 pm PDT #27156 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I googled, and Mayo Clinic says edamame is a vegetable. So, boom. Done.

Green clearly means vegetable, unless bread or meat in which case it qualifies are garbage. My rules are simple enough.

Today was a lower veggie day than my usual mostly veggies all the time diet. Just worked out that way. Lunch was pasta with spinach, asparagus, peppers, and tomatoes. Came out really good too. But breakfast was blueberry bagel (get a muffin)with peanut butter, dinner was at a Mexican joint, cheese enchilada with rice and beans. No plan to it, as in most days I don't plan on mostly eating plants, but it usually works out that way.


Laura - May 07, 2014 6:10:20 pm PDT #27157 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Bad combinations: Fruit and vegetables, Fats with fruits or vegetables, Milk and meat.

Oh no! I put fruits in the veggie salads most of the time! And fats if I use dressing or nuts! Not so much with the milk and meat though.

I don't have a lot of food police in my life. For this I am grateful.


Hil R. - May 07, 2014 6:11:18 pm PDT #27158 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

A whole lot of those old canned fake meat products were eventually bought by Worthington/Loma Linda, who still make a bunch of them. I have no idea who buys them -- pretty much the only people I've ever heard mention them were people who grew up Seventh Day Adventist, who talk about them as stuff they ate as kids. [link]


amych - May 07, 2014 6:15:53 pm PDT #27159 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Stake? Veja-links? I'm all for innovation in foodstuffs, but not with that spelling!


amych - May 07, 2014 6:17:36 pm PDT #27160 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

(On the other hand, Nuttolene sounds like someone's great-great-aunt)


Kat - May 07, 2014 6:25:51 pm PDT #27161 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Steph, my criteria is "Is it sold with the produce at the farmer's market?" Then yes vegetable. If I need to get clearer, I think, do I like it less than cheese and meat? Then yes, probably a vegetable.


shrift - May 07, 2014 6:40:52 pm PDT #27162 of 30000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Honestly, I think trusting the opposite of whatever all-up-in-your-business-facebook-friend says sounds like the best diet plan ever.

I think I'm going to advocate doing what I recommended for Dana's John Gault (sic) relative, and that's burn it all down. Or perhaps suggest that she gets to have an opinion of your diet when she becomes your primary care physician.

With potatoes & corn, I think it's more that they're prepared in an unhealthy way a lot. But carrots? WTF, they have beta-carotene, which is an essential nutrient! Potassium! Fiber! And not that much sugar, IIRC.

For dinner, I had chicken sausage with roasted broccolini, red bell pepper, carrots, and Brussels sprouts.


Consuela - May 07, 2014 7:05:48 pm PDT #27163 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

For dinner, I had kale, quinoa, tuna, apple, red pepper, and green onion, tossed with lemon and olive oil.

And some chocolate. And scotch with ginger-water.

Man, this new-old job is just not doing it for me. My boss has reviewed a letter I wrote for his signature and given it back to me twice to revise. "Revise" in the sense of "change happy to glad". This is a file I emailed to him. He brings me a hard copy with scribbles on it and I revise one sentence with no substantive change in the meaning and email it back to him. Twice.

I have been a professional in this field since 1994. I have a JD. I can write a fucking letter. WTF is this shit.


billytea - May 07, 2014 7:23:18 pm PDT #27164 of 30000
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Any definition of "vegetable" that's anything other than "food that grows as a plant" will, by necessity, be at least somewhat arbitrary.

And then one can argue about mushrooms.