I'm trying to decide if a politician who can't lie for shit is a good thing or a bad thing.
It would be a good thing if they were even a halfway decent person. Maybe. People don't really like the truth.
Well, if we followed the recipe...should be cake. A demon-violence-free-zone cake.
Lorne ,'Why We Fight'
Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Cass - Jul 23, 2013 5:02:05 pm PDT #171 of 30000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
Kat - Jul 23, 2013 5:15:23 pm PDT #172 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
Halfway decent person doesn't mean a good leader. I really think that Obama is a halfway decent person and he does an excellent job staying cool under pressure, but it still doesn't help him with being an ineffable good leader.
I wrote an essay about just this topic (should leaders have integrity. My answer is no, at least in the Stanley Fish version of integrity which includes consistent application of values irrespective of context).
So, a friend and coworker who is a Christian-Christian (caps intended) and active in her church told me that as an Elder in the church, she's been asked to participate in a meeting about gay marriage. She thinks it will be just an opportunity for people to try to persuade others to believe what they believe and therefore stirring up lots of angst with no resolution. I pointed out that it doesn't matter what people want to believe, the only thing that is important is that her church is clear on its policy (and even as a gay person, I think sacramental marriage should be decided by churches as befits the church. I would be aghast at a gay person suing a church to force the church to marry him or her to his or her partner. I also choose not to support churches that are not inclusive).
I was gobsmacked when she said they had already decided not to perform gay marriages because there was enough biblical evidence to suggest that marriage was intended, not to bond people in love but to glorify God and if that doesn't happen then it should be marriage. She actually said, "We've decided marriage isn't about love but it's about glorifying god." I wanted to point out that according to gospel, all sacramental acts are about Love ultimately; for example, baptism is about accepting God's grace (which is another form of love).
I bit my tongue but wanted to point out she is a 40 year old woman who is never likely to have children, therefore she herself is not glorifying god, but me and my gay partner? We've already bred. I did say that the issue is she was uncomfortable with acknowledging the exclusionary nature of her church and that's why she didn't want to go to this meeting.
It makes me think about her totally differently. So much so that I called her explanation of passive voice simplistic today.
shrift - Jul 23, 2013 5:29:29 pm PDT #173 of 30000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty
I am Rolando Trouble.
le nubian - Jul 23, 2013 5:30:35 pm PDT #174 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
we knew that though.
Ginger - Jul 23, 2013 5:45:38 pm PDT #175 of 30000
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
I am Marcelino Peril.
I can't imagine how they reconcile all those verses about adultery, divorce and marrying one's brother's widow with that view.
Two teenagers were injured sliding down the restricted side of Stone Mountain today. It's restricted because it's nearly vertical. Their father claims there weren't any signs saying it was restricted. I don't know about signs, but there's chain link fence, which most people would view as a clue. Even without the fence, I'd think "nearly vertical wet granite" would be a clue.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 23, 2013 5:48:56 pm PDT #176 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I think I'd ask the father if it was his aim to raise children too stupid to live, or if that just turned out to be an unintended result of negligent parenting.
SuziQ - Jul 23, 2013 5:50:38 pm PDT #177 of 30000
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame
As upset as CJ was last night when all the crap was going down with the bf, I found out today that CJ sent the bf a text to fix the shit. Never got an answer of course.
K-Bug didn't answer when I tried to call her today. Whatever. For now, I'm over putting energy into it. If one of them wants to contact me, I'll talk but until then, no more bad energy.
Now I can move on to stress over CJ's driver's test in the morning. Some license~ma would be appreciated about 7:15am board time.
Kat - Jul 23, 2013 5:50:54 pm PDT #178 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
Was the father there when it happened?
Ginger - Jul 23, 2013 6:00:43 pm PDT #179 of 30000
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
Was the father there when it happened?
Yes. They say they got lost, but you have to be really, really lost to bypass the fence. Also, one of the boys apparently thought sliding down a culvert would be fun and the other one followed him. I haven't heard any explanation about how they got that far off the trail. The trail always has quite a few people on it.
Kat - Jul 23, 2013 6:04:51 pm PDT #180 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
Ginger, the whole thing sounds like a good contender for the "Wouldn't It Be Cool"/Mistakes were made tag.
I just got an email that is leaving me jangly. I am feeling over it but I can't get over it. I need to stop reading emails.