Harrow: You didn't have to wound that man. Mal: Yeah, I know, it was just funny.

'Shindig'


Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


le nubian - Nov 27, 2013 6:32:15 am PST #13018 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

While there are some places that are open on holidays, in the past there was some negotiation with employees: who wanted to work T-day vs Christmas? Can your shift end early enough or start late enough so you had part of the day? Then too, there are people who prefer to work and don't celebrate T-day, Christmas and other holidays.

I teach students who often are teachers (who get the week off this week) so they requested that I cancel class this week. I was happy to do it. I prefer to travel on Tuesdays anyway.


Steph L. - Nov 27, 2013 6:39:09 am PST #13019 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

My college's Thanksgiving week schedule included classes on Monday and Tuesday. But tons of people would take the whole week or, at the very least, skip Tuesday (pretty sure that's what I did).

My Thanksgiving food prep today involves baking a pumpkin pie and taking the green beans out of the freezer to thaw in preparation for being turned into the venerable green bean casserole tomorrow. I've never made it before, so I'm a little nervous. But it doesn't seem like something that can be fucked up too badly. (I wouldn't ordinarily make it, but my aunt gave me 4 or 5 freezer bags full of green beans from her garden earlier this month, so, hey -- green bean casserole!)

We're also bringing wine (which I'm really good at) and rolls (which is Tim's job). Although we decided that starting next year, the 20-something nephews who live on their own can be given the job of bringing rolls.


Fred Pete - Nov 27, 2013 6:41:53 am PST #13020 of 30000
Ann, that's a ferret.

I'm one of those people that actually like to work on the day after Thanksgiving. No traffic problems, and everything is so quiet that I can get a lot done (or goof off without worrying that anyone will see me). (This year, it's going to be "get a lot done.")

In my division, I think it's going to be just me and the new attorney who has to be careful with the little annual leave that she's accrued.


brenda m - Nov 27, 2013 6:41:53 am PST #13021 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

in the past there was some negotiation with employees: who wanted to work T-day vs Christmas? Can your shift end early enough or start late enough so you had part of the day? Then too, there are people who prefer to work and don't celebrate T-day, Christmas and other holidays.

Right, I think it's the volume that really makes this different. I always enjoyed working T-day AM when I was at Starbucks, but you just needed a few people who felt like that and you were covered. A handful of people, and hours that are conducive to still preserving a bunch of the holiday. Now there's such a volume of shopping that stores are extra staffed up and my perception is that many people do not have a choice.


Fred Pete - Nov 27, 2013 6:44:31 am PST #13022 of 30000
Ann, that's a ferret.

Our neighborhood Starbucks is advertising that they'll be open 41 straight hours on Thanksgiving and Black Friday.

It's insane.


Jesse - Nov 27, 2013 6:50:39 am PST #13023 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Now there's such a volume of shopping that stores are extra staffed up and my perception is that many people do not have a choice.

And then the Starbucks have to staff up, because more people will be coming in -- it's a snowball effect, I think.

Along similar lines, I was in a bar last night that was surprised by a very large party, and only had one bartender and one waitress working. It was kind of a cluster fuck.


flea - Nov 27, 2013 6:51:25 am PST #13024 of 30000
information libertarian

At the library, nobody has both Wednesday and Friday off, so nobody can travel far for Thanksgiving. The vast majority of the people are from here, so it's not so much an issue for them, but I'll never be able to visit my mother for Thanksgiving while I'm working there, and driving to Cleveland to my in-laws would kind of be a problem, too. So it's not like the problem of working holidays is limited to the actual day, or limited to low-wage workers. (For Christmas, I've been scheduled to work the 27th, although asking for it off. So I'll have the 24th-26th off, and then work one day, and then have the weekend off, which feels like a waste. We can't reasonably travel for Christmas with that schedule.)


Jesse - Nov 27, 2013 6:56:06 am PST #13025 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh, sure -- my new job closes between Christmas and New Year's, but of course all of the people who handle individual donors have to go in -- that's their busiest time!


hippocampus - Nov 27, 2013 6:56:19 am PST #13026 of 30000
not your mom's socks.

I love taking the train up and down the northeast - so much more than flying. But the long-haul trips (Montreal >> NY, New Hampshire >> Philadelphia) can get really crowded still.

ION, slate with a FTW caption on that stock image (the article is relatively meh): [link]


Jesse - Nov 27, 2013 6:56:29 am PST #13027 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

But also, that really sucks, flea! Can people come to you?