Hauser: You really think you can solve the problem? Come into Wolfram & Hart and make everything right? Turn night into glorious day? You pathetic little fairy. Angel: I'm not little.

'Just Rewards (2)'


Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kat - Nov 26, 2013 5:05:53 am PST #12938 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I guess, too, I think the most defining part of his life and Grace's life will be growing up as set of twins, one of which has pretty high intensity special needs, to two gay parents. Culture is just going to be lower on his list of identifiers, maybe.


Kat - Nov 26, 2013 5:07:08 am PST #12939 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

But Noah is so adamant about NOT being Chinese. Then when he is almost ready to admit he is, he will look at Katie and say, "Are you Chinese too?"


Jesse - Nov 26, 2013 5:11:23 am PST #12940 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Noah's got a lot going on! He'll be fine.

Also, I am reminded of my Memere insisting to me that she was not French, she was American. Now, I realize I should have said French-Canadian, but OK, Memere, lets have some tourtiere and talk about this some more....


Amy - Nov 26, 2013 5:14:07 am PST #12941 of 30000
Because books.

Noah's a little kid! He doesn't have to have it all figured out right now. He'll be fine, like Jesse said.


amych - Nov 26, 2013 5:16:50 am PST #12942 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Jesse's grandmother reminds me of mine, who was always and only American. Meanwhile, her sister was Jewish and her mother was Austrian. It's interesting what people will grab onto as their preferred identities, especially when we all really have multiples to choose from.


§ ita § - Nov 26, 2013 5:28:22 am PST #12943 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I didn't think I was black at about Noah's age. I was Jamaican (pretty easy when you live there), but I wasn't black. I was brown.

Then came the books.


msbelle - Nov 26, 2013 5:33:04 am PST #12944 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

work is so much improved with music (at least the type of work I was doing yesterday and most of what I am doing today). YAY iTouch!


§ ita § - Nov 26, 2013 5:34:23 am PST #12945 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Urgh. My internal thermostat is still broken. I am continually uncomfortable.

And I have a ton of shit to rip through today. A year's worth of status reports to summarise.


Jessica - Nov 26, 2013 6:04:17 am PST #12946 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I sometimes worry if my kids will identify as Jewish when they grow up. I'm not even really sure why it's important to me - DH and I are both atheists, and the only time I've set foot in a synagogue in the past 20 years was to go to a retirement party for two of my former Hebrew school teachers.

(There is an atheist/secular Jewish congregation in NYC but it's in Manhattan and would be a pretty long subway trip for the kids, especially Friday evenings.)


Kat - Nov 26, 2013 6:12:06 am PST #12947 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I agree with amyth that there are so many identities to chose from and some, for me, that are so much more present and interesting than cultural. But, because I grew up in such a white place, I always knew I wasn't white because everyone else was. Noah and Grace are growing up in a really diverse neighborhood (well, in every way that is not related to economics at least) and for them, perhaps, being Asian is not as front and center.