Giles, help! He's going to scold me!

Buffy ,'Never Leave Me'


Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


shrift - Nov 25, 2013 1:35:56 pm PST #12912 of 30000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

O, for a bingo card.

Number of days since the last time people have disappointed us: 0.


le nubian - Nov 25, 2013 2:26:48 pm PST #12913 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

le n, what the what? DAMN. That's some truly impressive tone-deafitude.

Given she is dating John "I have a racist penis" Mayer, I am not surprised.


-t - Nov 25, 2013 2:27:50 pm PST #12914 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Woo-hoo, my modem DID magically fix itself while I was at work! Hooray!

First batch of Sausage Stuffing Spheres with Cranberry Centers assembled and in the freezer, also woohoo! I have so much more stuffing than I need for this recipe, which is good because I decided I need to make a double batch for the pot luck tomorrow. I think for the batch I make to bring to my parents I will not try not straining the cranberry sauce, see how that goes.

Good luck, Consuela, even though the interview wasn't really what you were hoping for.


Liese S. - Nov 25, 2013 3:02:13 pm PST #12915 of 30000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yeah, can I just say, on behalf of my people, fuck Katy Perry, and fuck all the supporters/racists.


hippocampus - Nov 25, 2013 3:05:18 pm PST #12916 of 30000
not your mom's socks.

job~ma, Sue. Argh Consuela - still sending job~ma anyway.

Catching up on the Katy Perry - ugh. ugh. ugh. ugh.


JZ - Nov 25, 2013 3:08:53 pm PST #12917 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

The people I'm backing away from aren't even folks I would ever have said were racists, but they are seriously bugging the fuck out over what seems to me a pretty measured (mildly impatient and eyerolling, but all told still measured) response.

One person got nigh hysterical about how "I dressed up as a geisha for Halloween a couple of years ago, so I guess I'm racist now, huh, huh, is that what you're saying?" and it is taking all I've got not to just screencap her post (or possibly the entire thread) and send it to Yo, Is This Racist?

They're good people, generally, but holy fuck are they flipping out like mammals.


Liese S. - Nov 25, 2013 3:17:34 pm PST #12918 of 30000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yes, yes I am. I am saying you're a racist now. Fuck you.

Man, I had a really tough, nuanced conversation this summer with a young camper who had appropriated Native American costuming for Halloween in the past. I asked her for details (she'd dressed as a specific person and had tried to include tribal specific design) and explained what she did right and why some people would still find what she did problematic. She was thoughtful, inquisitive, and ultimately apologized. Why can't you be like this bright young woman, all other white people?

Is it hard to be called out on your past mistakes? Of course. Would you have made the mistake if you knew better? Probably not. But learning about it after the fact doesn't make it not your fault or not a problem. It just makes it a problem you now know not to repeat! Handle it with grace.

Sheesh.


Liese S. - Nov 25, 2013 3:22:07 pm PST #12919 of 30000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

(Also? That was not a fucking kimono. Just saying.)


le nubian - Nov 25, 2013 3:25:29 pm PST #12920 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

it is taking all I've got not to just screencap her post (or possibly the entire thread) and send it to Yo, Is This Racist?

Yes. Do EEEt.


Hil R. - Nov 25, 2013 3:29:03 pm PST #12921 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Man, I had a really tough, nuanced conversation this summer with a young camper who had appropriated Native American costuming for Halloween in the past. I asked her for details (she'd dressed as a specific person and had tried to include tribal specific design) and explained what she did right and why some people would still find what she did problematic. She was thoughtful, inquisitive, and ultimately apologized. Why can't you be like this bright young woman, all other white people?

There was an article in a local newspaper (local to my parents) about how local schools are celebrating Thanksgiving. Nearly all of them had things like kids dressing up in headdresses with colorful feathers, or choosing Native American names, or stuff like that. Just one of the schools mentioned taking the kids to a exhibit on the Native Americans local to the area, which was run by someone who is part of that tribe.