I'm not evil again. Why does everyone think that?

Angel ,'Sleeper'


Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - Nov 23, 2013 9:00:21 am PST #12751 of 30000

I think they probably helped some- her boyfriend definitely. For her they probably prevented lacerations and stuff, but the force was such, hard to say. She did get burns from some of them, though she can't figure out which ones


Burrell - Nov 23, 2013 9:24:02 am PST #12752 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Anti-seizure drugs seem very multipurpose. They are used for nerve pain, and I think they are also used to treat bipolar disorder in some cases. Not surprised they also help with dementia.


Steph L. - Nov 23, 2013 10:20:35 am PST #12753 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Anti-seizure drugs seem very multipurpose. They are used for nerve pain, and I think they are also used to treat bipolar disorder in some cases. Not surprised they also help with dementia.

Also migraines, IIRC.


Consuela - Nov 23, 2013 10:46:01 am PST #12754 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I evaded three zombie packs on my run today! (Small pleasures, I swear.)

In other news, Emma Thompson is looking pretty fab: [link]


DavidS - Nov 23, 2013 11:40:20 am PST #12755 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

In other news, Emma Thompson is looking pretty fab

She is!


Burrell - Nov 23, 2013 11:46:25 am PST #12756 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I love her so much.


§ ita § - Nov 23, 2013 12:48:10 pm PST #12757 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I do wish people would stop with the "injecting yourself with poison" line. Don't give even the remotest bits of support to people who think no amount of biological agent can be injected non-harmfully (or even beneficially), and too many people think botox has no point whatsoever.

Also there need to be more "typically" aging women saying "Look at me! I'm 54 and I have no aging anxiety!" Even ones that started out drop dead gorgeous. Coming from her it's kinda empty. Michael Jordan can also reach the food on the top shelf, what does that do for Linda Hunt?

That being said, she's cool.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 23, 2013 12:52:58 pm PST #12758 of 30000
You have to remember that being a 5-time Olympic medalist means Hilary Knight has been playing hockey at an elite level at least 16 years. It's impossible for her to be a teenage girl less than 16 years old, thus the President's complete lack of interest.

Last time I checked, botulism toxin was still a toxin. In controlled amounts under medical supervision it can have positive uses (though I don't think paralyzed facial muscles and frozen expressions are a positive use for actresses), just like chemotherapy chemicals, but that doesn't make it not poison.


Burrell - Nov 23, 2013 1:14:18 pm PST #12759 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I'm with ita on the poison line. Lots of medications are toxic, but they have a value, and botox has medical as well as cosmetic uses. Besides, I don't buy the argument that there's some ethical transgression with getting cosmetic treatments. I don't think it makes someone a better person. (I personally find the costs and the hassle are enough of a reason to not bother, and face lifts seems super invasive surgery, so not signing on to anything like that.)

My love of Emma has more to do with her smile and her humor and, hell, her whole 'ness.

I do think I'd be more conflicted about it if I were an actress, but I think there's a risk either way since your face is such an important instrument. I've always suspected that a lot of actors botox up for the award season and then let it wear off so they can play a bigger range of roles. Susan Sarandon always looks 10 years older in her movies, and uses that to her advantage. But who knows? Make-up artists and esp wig people can do magic with a bit of tape, even if like Cinderella the transformation only lasts the night.


Consuela - Nov 23, 2013 1:50:45 pm PST #12760 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I think it's pretty tricky, the whole question of botox and other work. The valorization of youth in this culture reinforces the need to look youthful, and I don't want to castigate anyone who thinks that they need to continue to look young for personal or professional reasons. But on the other hand, catering to that desire for youth supports the sidelining of older (and older-appearing) women.

There's really no way to win. It's wickedly unfair.

And now I'm off to climb, woot.