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Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


brenda m - Nov 22, 2013 10:54:06 am PST #12684 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

If I started talking about "gray collar workers", what would you interpret that to mean? (Other than that I need to get out more and find some better topics of conversation.)


Amy - Nov 22, 2013 10:55:48 am PST #12685 of 30000
Because books.

Older employees?


brenda m - Nov 22, 2013 11:00:27 am PST #12686 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Seems natural, right? I'm in this workgroup and they're insisting on using it to mean people who straddle the line between technical skills and knowledge workers, i.e., a cross between blue and white collar.

It's so non-intuitive and it's actually a pretty big part of the message we're trying to craft. I'm getting no traction.


Sophia Brooks - Nov 22, 2013 11:03:05 am PST #12687 of 30000
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Part of the problem is that white and blue do not make grey- they make light blue. So maybe you need "oxford collar" or "henleys" or something like that.


amych - Nov 22, 2013 11:10:34 am PST #12688 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

a cross between blue and white collar.

Gingham!

Gray collar just sounds like one of those old ring-around-the-collar laundry aid ads. Which seem to have largely disappeared, now that I think of it -- people haven't stopped sweating in their shirts or shaming (people they assume to be) housewives, so whatever happened to the OMG crisis-level national epidemic?


brenda m - Nov 22, 2013 11:10:36 am PST #12689 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Googling around I see it's used to mean both those things, or people who are outside of jobs classified as white or blue collar, and in some cases also sub-blue collar. So obviously super clear.


brenda m - Nov 22, 2013 11:12:42 am PST #12690 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

ring-around-the-collar laundry aid ads.

No one washes those kinds of shirts at home anymore.


Jessica - Nov 22, 2013 11:13:38 am PST #12691 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Which seem to have largely disappeared, now that I think of it -- people haven't stopped sweating in their shirts or shaming (people they assume to be) housewives, so whatever happened to the OMG crisis-level national epidemic?

Market research indicates that ads where women do nothing but cheerfully wash their kids' clothes are marginally less offensive than ones where women gain life satisfaction from washing their husband's clothes, I assume?


amych - Nov 22, 2013 11:15:12 am PST #12692 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

No one washes those kinds of shirts at home anymore.

Huh. You're right. Thank goodness, as it allows that portion of the national shame budget to be reallocated to telling women they're destroying their children and/or betraying the feminist movement by taking a selfie!


Sophia Brooks - Nov 22, 2013 11:29:44 am PST #12693 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

There were also commercials in the 90's for Surf where the kids said "Phew, Dad! Your shirt smells!" which cracks me up.