([CJ], I am sorry if this example isolated or made you feel uncomfortable or hurt).

Nope, it still says "I am sorry if" Try again, teacher. You'll get it eventually.

I spent too long in Supernatural fandom: I still reflexively think JA is Jensen Ackles.

Ha. I spent too long as a Jamaican. That's never going to happen, even if Show gets to season 25 with him on.

I found this URL quite randomly last night, and had to click on it, because how can you not??? Next thing was to send it to Colin and ask him if I can come over and do it, but looks like his GF is going to beat me to that particular punch. I guess she's earned the right, but it was my idea! Even if their scope falls short of where I'd go with it.

In professional theaters, when doing a 10 out of 12, do actors get into costume during those 10 hours or are they called in a half hour early in the morning and at dinner break( really making it 11 out of 12.

Sophia, on an equity contract the actors can't be called outside of the 10 of 12 time frame. If the day is noon-midnight then actors get into costume at noon and hit the stage at 12:30. Getting out of costume, however, is not factored in.

Thanks aurelia! That was what I thought. We are a university, but they try to go by equity rules sometimes, and the one annoying director NEVER includes time to get into costumes. The guest directors never seem to have a problem with it.

If I started talking about "gray collar workers", what would you interpret that to mean? (Other than that I need to get out more and find some better topics of conversation.)

Older employees?

Seems natural, right? I'm in this workgroup and they're insisting on using it to mean people who straddle the line between technical skills and knowledge workers, i.e., a cross between blue and white collar.

It's so non-intuitive and it's actually a pretty big part of the message we're trying to craft. I'm getting no traction.

Part of the problem is that white and blue do not make grey- they make light blue. So maybe you need "oxford collar" or "henleys" or something like that.

a cross between blue and white collar.

Gingham!

Gray collar just sounds like one of those old ring-around-the-collar laundry aid ads. Which seem to have largely disappeared, now that I think of it -- people haven't stopped sweating in their shirts or shaming (people they assume to be) housewives, so whatever happened to the OMG crisis-level national epidemic?

Googling around I see it's used to mean both those things, or people who are outside of jobs classified as white or blue collar, and in some cases also sub-blue collar. So obviously super clear.