I gave her everything... jewels, beautiful dresses -- with beautiful girls in them.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Nov 20, 2013 4:34:52 pm PST #12566 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I actually learned a preposition song in 5th (?) grade, which I would sing for you now if you were here. But it's just a list, not a definition. In over under on across against around, beneath beside between before above for by beyond... etc.


Sophia Brooks - Nov 20, 2013 4:35:54 pm PST #12567 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Busy prepositions: [link]


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2013 4:37:46 pm PST #12568 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The noun (well, usually a noun) after "because" is just shorthand for a longer clause.

Why isn't "because" the shorthand? At what point away from that will that be the same as being a preposition? I mean, if the aliens read it right now (or the French), can they tell the difference?


-t - Nov 20, 2013 4:38:32 pm PST #12569 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I think I have heard that, although I didn't go so far as to learn it.

Tep's answer makes sense, so goes my nation.


Hil R. - Nov 20, 2013 4:38:40 pm PST #12570 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

To the tune of Yankee Doodle: about above across after against among around, at before behind beside between by down. during, except for from. in, near, of off on. over, through to towards, under up and with.


-t - Nov 20, 2013 4:42:56 pm PST #12571 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Thanks, Sophia! I'm not sure I understand any better, but at least I know what song to listen to.


Burrell - Nov 20, 2013 5:26:25 pm PST #12572 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Today was so dang loooong! How do people with real jobs handle it?

Oh, there's a kerfuffle going on in the extended Ashe clan over Thanksgiving. Now that things have calmed down, both my DH and my sister's DH want to have dinner at their parents' houses (as in, Rich told his parents he'd eat there, Cody told his dad we'd eat with them). I'm fine with that. In fact, let me count the ways: I don't cook, shorter drive than the one to HMB, kids love playing over there, plus good food. But my sister doesn't want to go to her in-laws, so she's really upset. Oy! I just hope it resolves itself soon so I don't have to keep thinking about it.


aurelia - Nov 20, 2013 5:38:17 pm PST #12573 of 30000
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Today still is long. I'm at 12.5 hours now with approx another hour to go. "God bless us, every one" my ass.

Burrell, I hope the kerfuffle abates quickly.


Zenkitty - Nov 20, 2013 5:58:36 pm PST #12574 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

But to answer the question, I think it's still a conjunction with an implied clause. The noun (well, usually a noun) after "because" is just shorthand for a longer clause.

Agreeing with Steph. Because yeah.

"I can't have nice furniture because my cats destroy it" became "I can't have nice stuff because cats." "Because" isn't doing anything different than it ever did.


Burrell - Nov 20, 2013 5:59:27 pm PST #12575 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I love you all. Just because.