ION, Timothy Olyphant was on this week's Mindy Project, if anyone is interest in seeing him try to look like a loser.

DUDE. I totally didn't recognize him. I kept trying to figure out WTF he looked familiar.

Are there non-churchy hobbyist ways to do that?

Tons! Edit: Whoops! Got distracted. Some other stuff comes up if you just google New York chorus, or even better, Brooklyn chorus.

Was it literally the Toronto Children's Chorus?

DUDE. I totally didn't recognize him. I kept trying to figure out WTF he looked familiar.

Right? It's that terrible hair.

Was it literally the Toronto Children's Chorus?

Maybe - it was so long ago!

[The Kyrie on the allmusic.com link that comes up in that Google search is not the one I'm thinking of though.]

I learned to sing in a Methodist choir. Methodists have terrific hymns. There's a volunteer choir in town, but you have to pay to join. No thanks.

java, are you close enough that you could do a separate lunch or dinner with gift exchange with the ones you'd like to gift? That's what I generally end up doing with my girlfriends with huge families that I'm not especially close to. We get together and hang out for a while, exchange gifts (and because I like doing presents, sometimes gifts for their hubbies, if I consider them friends [or have a theme I like to hit] and for their kids). Sometimes we end up not "doing Christmas" until well into January, but it's nice to find the time to be together along with fun gifting.

You know, I should do this. Thanks. I really miss it and I should do something about it. I hope they'll want to play along. Thanks, Epic.

HI OUISE!

I also would like to find a singing group, but even more than a that, a jam group for people who like to sing with instruments. I get close to it going down to Matt and Beth's neighborhood - but I need more more more more.

I am one of those people that has in years past been done with Holiday shopping by now. This year I have a Starbucks gift card for my mom's stocking and that is it!

Prompted by the exchange starting, I just bought something for mac. Not even a full gift in itself, but a partial.

It has started.

msbelle, you are awful.

It's weird--I can get that people are phobic about, say, spiders, that what I think is icky is for them a departure of both reason and composure.

But I'd never heard of the honeycomb thing before, never even imagined it, so it took a lot of laughing before I took her even slightly seriously.

Now I can stare at some of her triggers and not understand it, but be grossed out nonetheless...all those little holes!

I feel like inhaling and exhaling is making this migraine hurt more. It is true that if I stopped either (or both) the pain should go away, but I don't think that's what the diagnosticians have in mind by "What makes the pain better or worse?"

I'm back to gagging with nausea, but at least it's time for more steroids. Those absolutely will work right away, right??

I am not awful. I bet I made you smile.