I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

Cheese Man ,'Chosen'


Spike's Bitches 48: I Say, We Go Out There, and Kick a Little Demon Ass.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


P.M. Marc - Feb 11, 2014 7:37:33 pm PST #9161 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

My parents are well-meaning (most of the time) but soooo far removed from the rest of the humans. Bless 'em.

One thing that struck me, Tep, was

when your mother says she's a GREAT mother (without a trace of irony) because we have a roof over our heads and food to eat and she doesn't bring home men who beat us, maybe she's wrong about being GREAT."

DAMN, she must have been carrying a hell of a lot of damage and baggage of her own, and DAMN, I'm glad therapy's now more of an option for people.


Steph L. - Feb 11, 2014 7:43:45 pm PST #9162 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Oh, yes. My grandpa makes the Great Santini look like Father of the Goddamn Year. I used to wonder why my mom married my dad, when they were so clearly unsuited for each other. And one day it occurred to me: she would have done ANYTHING, even marry a man not well-suited to her, to get out of my grandpa's house. No question.

Lot of damage in this family. No surprise it's rife with addicts and crazy people.


Sean K - Feb 11, 2014 7:45:12 pm PST #9163 of 30002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

So, yeah. Appropriately enough, my dad did it again to me today. This evening. And he's triggered some very strong, angry, hurt feelings, and made me feel like a three year old who's fucking everything up again. I'm really having a massive anger reaction, and it's causing me major problems this evening.

I just can't even.

Looks like the "Go Back to School" plan is going to be aborted before it even starts, because "I don't have a plan that he can see."

The only reason I'm not crying or screaming and breaking shit right now is because I'm so far beyond upset, I can't figure out which I want to do.


beekaytee - Feb 11, 2014 7:56:39 pm PST #9164 of 30002
Compassionately intolerant

I find myself saying, out loud, "Oh Sweetie, it's okay."

I have zero idea where that came from because no adult I ever knew spoke to me that way.

Guardian Angel? Just a theory.

You might just be on to something there, omnis. I'm going to go with that.


Zenkitty - Feb 11, 2014 8:06:43 pm PST #9165 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

He wouldn't be the first to rewrite history.

So, like, mine is not the only family that rewrites their personal history? My mom and my gram could do it on the fly; they could re-remember shit that happened, like, yesterday. My sister does the same thing, while also knowing that they did it; this makes me scared that I'M doing it and I don't even know it. And the abusive spouse who kept contradicting things I was certain of...whoa. I'm basically helping to gaslight myself. I'm near-obsessive about getting proof of even trivial things, and that's probably where it comes from.

WindSparrow, you made me realize something I'd never thought of before. When I was four, my parents divorced and we moved in with my mom's parents, and I never saw my father again. (Not that that was a bad thing; even at four, I knew we were all better off without him.) That was in spring, and in the fall, my sister went to college and never lived with us again. Basically, in a few months, I lost my father, my home, and my sister, and started living in a strange place with a couple people who clearly didn't entirely want me there. Even not missing him at all, it was a huge upset in my life. I've honestly never before thought about what an effect that must have had on an already-insecure four-year-old.

Apparently this is Sudden Self-knowledge Wednesday.


WindSparrow - Feb 11, 2014 8:15:00 pm PST #9166 of 30002
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Sean, I have an urge to hunt him down and beat some sense into him for you.

Zenkitty, I hope that realization brings some healing for you.


beth b - Feb 11, 2014 8:31:30 pm PST #9167 of 30002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

my dad was kind of lost when he had teen age daughters - happily by the time my youngest sister was in college - he had just learned to deal. the worst thing about them - is they wanted me to eat everything on my plate. I like food, so I did. best memory - my dad sad something to me about me not being responsible. I got up and left the table (probably with some drama) . He came and got me an d apologized. mom and dad are my friends. they worked together. they had goal s to raise their children to be independent adults. ot perfect, everyone has their issues and baggage - but reallythey did good. so I share them with all of you.


Zenkitty - Feb 11, 2014 8:44:44 pm PST #9168 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Zenkitty, I hope that realization brings some healing for you.

Thanks. I dunno about healing, but it's making me understand why I want a lifelogging camera and a paid-off mortgage.


Sean K - Feb 11, 2014 8:58:39 pm PST #9169 of 30002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

The worst part is, I could really use some actual fatherly advice right now. But the two men I replaced him with are both dead and buried. I always miss them something fierce at times like this.


omnis_audis - Feb 11, 2014 9:06:47 pm PST #9170 of 30002
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

The only reason I'm not crying or screaming and breaking shit right now is because I'm so far beyond upset, I can't figure out which I want to do.

Prove him wrong. Kick ass. Get a degree. Let him eat crow. Channel that energy. I believe in you. I think you can do it. Put the nose in the books, and get that degree. At best, it will take a few years. Plenty of time to come up with a plan. This is a major reset time for you. It's like stickball in the street, and the ball goes down the drain. "DO OVER". That's where you are. Don't listen to the negativism. Capture the positivity of the reset. Ride the wave.