Oh, Pacey! You blind idiot. Can't you see she doesn't love you?

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Spike's Bitches 48: I Say, We Go Out There, and Kick a Little Demon Ass.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


le nubian - Aug 28, 2013 3:40:39 pm PDT #3952 of 30002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I put a bra on, darn it.

THIS - is the worst part about it.


askye - Aug 28, 2013 4:08:30 pm PDT #3953 of 30002
Thrive to spite them

If he wants to do that, make sure you emphasis that he should have a plan or know what he wants.

My brother went into the Marines, because he couldn't fly planes (he wears glasses) and I'm not sure what the whole Marines reason was. And instead of picking something, anything that would give him skills he picked infantry. During peace time. There wasn't much for him to do and he got bored. I think he ended up finding ways to do stuff, but he also had a few small accidents (broke his toe, broke his nose, got blood posioning) and he was ready to get out.

I also had 2 cousins (brothers) who joined the Army and if I remember right, one spent most of his time trying to figure a way out of the contract the other ended up being career.


Pix - Aug 28, 2013 4:55:24 pm PDT #3954 of 30002
The status is NOT quo.

I have a number of friends and family who have served in various branches of the military and grew up a town over from the Groton Sub Base, and I do think it can be a good answer for many people. However, it's important to go in cautiously.

My friend J graduated with two BA degrees, tried his hand at music education, and eventually joined the Army because his college debt was overwhelming. The deal was that he would go in as an enlisted man despite the college education and they would pay off his debt. Long story short, he got screwed over in many, many ways. He doesn't regret joining the service, but I know he would say without a shadow of a doubt that big recruitment promises often lead nowhere—especially if you are enlisted and not an officer. He has also told me many times that he would tell any new recruit to go in as an officer candidate, whatever that took. J was in the intelligence brach of the Army--got trained as an Arabic translator--and when he was finally allowed to leave (he got stop-lossed for two years beyond his commitment), he did get a good job in contract intelligence work. But it was a rough road. If CJ wants to talk to a vet with this kind of experience, I know he'd be happy to.

Also, as I'm sure you know, no matter what he "signs up" for, there's no guarantee that he won't end up in combat. Not to say he shouldn't do it, but it's something to think about.

The Merchant Marine, on the other hand... lots of order, better money, an actual union, far less killing and dying.

Yep! One of my family's closest friends has been a captain and has been in the Merchant Marines for 40 years now. He'd also be happy to talk to CJ should he want to know more.


quester - Aug 28, 2013 5:03:06 pm PDT #3955 of 30002
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

My father was in the Army during WWII. My sister and I both joined the Army back in the 70s but we were idiots.

She was some kind of electronics repair person and it didn't translate into anything on the outside.

I was an MP and went straight to college after I got out and studies Theatre.

YmilitaryMMV.


Pix - Aug 28, 2013 5:08:19 pm PDT #3956 of 30002
The status is NOT quo.

So true. I'm definitely no expert; many people here have a lot more direct experience than me.


Connie Neil - Aug 28, 2013 5:22:52 pm PDT #3957 of 30002
brillig

Hubby went Coast Guard so as not to offend his Naval father and Marine mother and Everything Else Uncles. Though no one else was Air Force. That was Not Done.


SuziQ - Aug 28, 2013 5:24:52 pm PDT #3958 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Also, as I'm sure you know, no matter what he "signs up" for, there's no guarantee that he won't end up in combat. Not to say he shouldn't do it, but it's something to think about.

Right. But this is where I can't argue with him. His long term goal is fire and/or SWAT team related. Not sure what the chance of injury there is compared to the military, but they are all high risk.

Thanks everyone. If/when we ever do talk with the recruiter, I'm sure we will both have more questions and I'm glad there is a variety of experience here or one degree away.


SuziQ - Aug 28, 2013 5:28:11 pm PDT #3959 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I know a bunch of people who have gone Navy but don't know anyone who had gone into the Army in recent years.

One of the guys at karate is apparently Army JAG (just learned this a moment ago) and has offered to help CJ with any paperwork if things go to that point. I don't see this guy at the dojo often, but I may need to make a point to catch up with him there to pick his brain.


meara - Aug 28, 2013 6:50:57 pm PDT #3960 of 30002

Yeah, CJ should keep ROTC in mind too...


Connie Neil - Aug 28, 2013 7:23:55 pm PDT #3961 of 30002
brillig

I'm picturing CJ muttering, "Dammit, Auntie Buffistas, I'm just *thinking* about things!"