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Spike's Bitches 48: I Say, We Go Out There, and Kick a Little Demon Ass.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Sparky1 - Nov 21, 2016 12:33:24 pm PST #27988 of 30002
Librarian Warlord

Suzi, I know how stressful this is, but I don't think you need to be the one to call in the bite. You know Jack has had his rabies shot, and that would be the reason for the quarantine (which would be at animal control). I also think that because the trainer was at her place of work, there is a chance you might not be liable for the bite. I think it is great if you pay the doctor's bill, that's because you are a good human being.


SuziQ - Nov 21, 2016 1:16:55 pm PST #27989 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

And now he just snapped at CJ, giving him a good tooth scrape - no puncture.

I've called the vet and their suggestion is doggie prozac so he has an appt at 6:30. I also found his muzzle. I'm just....wtfdog?

Oh, bonus, the vet's office texted Kelly confirming the appt because she is the name on his file so then she calls me to ask what is up. I had just been crying again and didn't do that great a job of saying it isn't a quick conversation, just want to get him some Prozac...cause...ummm...just cause.

OMG, Jack is such a snuggle 95% of the time, fearful/agressive but manageable about 4.7% of the time but then....that .3%.

I love his vet - I'll ask her advice on the notification thing. If our conversation create a need for her to report, so be it. I trust her to do what is best.


Cass - Nov 21, 2016 1:17:43 pm PST #27990 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

California allows in-home quarantine to animals especially when they are vaccinated and symptom free.


Cass - Nov 21, 2016 1:19:16 pm PST #27991 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I'd definitely work on counterconditioning and training with him. Fear biters are difficult because they give fewer warning signs that most people see.

I'm doubtful she could hold you liable.


brenda m - Nov 21, 2016 1:20:39 pm PST #27992 of 30002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Oh jeez, Suzi. I'm so sorry for you and for Jack (and the woman at the store of course). I agree with Sparky that I don't think you need to escalate anything, and I hope things don't go further than the medical bills and some more focused training.

And just saw the update. What a tough situation. I hope his trainer can really help you.


SuziQ - Nov 21, 2016 1:27:36 pm PST #27993 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I hope his trainer can really help you.

Once we get past this weekend, I'm going to have Kelly call his trainer and ask for some one on one appointments focused on the fear/aggression thing. Though, honestly, last time we did a one on one for this issue, he never showed any fear or aggression. Made it hard to come up with strategies to train him.

I have CJ off picking up Cory from public transportation so I can explain it all to him since it is his daughter coming into our home for the next 5 days and he needs to know what is going on and what I'm putting in motion to counter things. Kelly doesn't get home until 8, so she will be the last to get the full story.

Man, today started out so chill.


Sparky1 - Nov 21, 2016 2:43:56 pm PST #27994 of 30002
Librarian Warlord

I'm just....wtfdog?

You are, remember, his human, his everything, and he can read your anxiety, so he's probably feeling some, too. If you can give him some petting time, it would probably help soothe both of your raw nerves a bit?


SuziQ - Nov 21, 2016 2:51:12 pm PST #27995 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I've been trying, Sparky. He definitely knows I'm upset and that is only going to double when Kel gets home. But I'm gonna give him some extra locks right now.


Zenkitty - Nov 21, 2016 3:23:15 pm PST #27996 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Oh, Suzi, that's so upsetting. I hope Jack is able to get help and training so he can calm down and it will all be okay.


askye - Nov 21, 2016 8:07:17 pm PST #27997 of 30002
Thrive to spite them

I can't sleep. I found out Grandma has had at least 2 TIAS. The second shemail had one the way home from her cardiologist after he said she was fine. The cardiologist is her regular doctor and a family friend so it's scary that something could happen that he couldn't detect.

She was hallucinating people (she did this in the hospital for her gall bladder) and couldn't remember her age. But did realize if she was 96 then she couldn't have been talking to her mother.

I'm sad and scared and worried.