Gunn: Well, how horrible is this thing? Lorne: I haven't read the Book of Revelations lately, but if I was searching for adjectives, I'd probably start there.

'Hell Bound'


Spike's Bitches 48: I Say, We Go Out There, and Kick a Little Demon Ass.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Steph L. - Dec 30, 2014 12:32:25 pm PST #15196 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I'm already working up a check list of things to talk to the old friend about.

As an introvert who hates small talk, this is seriously a good idea. It's also very thoughtful, because it shows you remember stuff about them.

It's also why I try to scan the headlines for sports stuff, so I can throw out a comment like "The Bengals made the playoffs by sheer luck!" and people nod as if I know what in the hell I'm talking about. (I can't follow it up, of course, but usually one comment is all I need to contribute.)

People who never shut the fuck up are really comforting to me, because I don't have to worry about holding up my end of the small talk. They drive other people nuts, but I stick to them like glue and just occasionally have to say, "And how did you learn to do THAT?" And they talk for 25 more minutes without taking a breath.


Steph L. - Dec 30, 2014 12:33:45 pm PST #15197 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Oh, and:

I feel proud of myself for successfully impersonating a "normal" person

I feel like this about 95% of the time I have to interact with anyone other than Tim or our besties, who are weird socially awkward introverts like me. I feel like I learned how to behave socially from TV and movies, and I'm really just playacting "normal social human."


Connie Neil - Dec 30, 2014 12:40:19 pm PST #15198 of 30002
brillig

It's kind of depressing to realize that most of my meat friends are people I met through Hubby. Our friends think of me as a witty conversationalist, but I'm having to learn how to do this without my extroverted conversation-hog to use as a springboard. Ah, well, personal growth and all that jazz.


askye - Dec 30, 2014 2:59:18 pm PST #15199 of 30002
Thrive to spite them

Shir how did you send the crosses? I haven't received them or any noteam on my door.

Thanks for the pants recommendation. We have an LL Bean here and I'll hAve to check ththe sizing. Last time I tried on Bean pants they were too short in the stride.


Zenkitty - Dec 30, 2014 3:08:45 pm PST #15200 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I feel like I am a twin to both Steph and Connie.

I feel like I learned how to behave socially from TV and movies, and I'm really just playacting "normal social human."

I totally did this. Deliberately. I watched movies and imitated what people did and tried to understand why people reacted the way they did so I'd do it all at the right times. It really was like studying an alien culture. Or alien species, sometimes.

most of my meat friends are people I met through Hubby.

For most of my life, my meatspace friends were almost all people I met through my significant others, or co-workers. The exception was G., my BFF. Now I have three other friends I've met all on my own and I feel so proud of them, like I accomplished them.

I stick to them like glue and just occasionally have to say, "And how did you learn to do THAT?" And they talk for 25 more minutes without taking a breath.

And they think you are an excellent conversationalist!

Like most introverts, small talk baffles me. I can fake small talk, but on the inside I'm saying "So, conversation about nothing. This person actually seems interested in my random statements about local road development and how it disrupts life. Now we're talking about cars. Why?"

I've concluded that what we talk about is not what really matters to people. It's the conversation itself that's important, not its content, because the interaction is the human equivalent of grooming each other's fur. We can talk about anything at all, no matter how trivial, that's of some mutual interest and doesn't stir negative emotions, and with the right body language and eye contact (watch movies, practice in mirror) we've bonded! and the other person will think you're a friendly and nice person and will vouch for your character at the trial. I mean, will consider you a part of her community.

Humans are so difficult. No wonder the aliens are still studying us after all these years.


Connie Neil - Dec 30, 2014 3:13:16 pm PST #15201 of 30002
brillig

will vouch for your character at the trial.

To counter the give-away "she was quiet and kept to herself" tendencies.


Beverly - Dec 30, 2014 4:15:32 pm PST #15202 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I heart this conversation, nodding and pointing, though I realize pointing is socially frowned upon. I think the art of conversation is listening well enough to discover someone's hobby or thing they are engaged in, and asking a key question or two. Then all you need do is smile and nod, and maybe offer the canape tray with interogatorily raised eyebrows.


Connie Neil - Dec 30, 2014 5:31:23 pm PST #15203 of 30002
brillig

Another thing I'm getting over is not thinking "My friend wants to have lunch Friday. There goes Friday for doing anything productive." It's lunch. Two hours tops. One lunch isn't sufficient to set off such shockwaves that I can't do other useful things in the day.

I feel like such a grown up when I manage multiple errands in the wide world in a day.

Edit: I feel like we should gather this conversation and release it with the title "Practical Introversion: How to Face the World Without Being Outed as Weird."


Vortex - Dec 30, 2014 7:24:50 pm PST #15204 of 30002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

In light of this conversation, 22 Shirts Every Introvert Should Own


Vortex - Dec 30, 2014 7:24:51 pm PST #15205 of 30002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman