I just said that you're pretty. Even when you're covered in...engine grease, you're... No, especially, especially when you're covered in engine grease.

Simon ,'Jaynestown'


Spike's Bitches 48: I Say, We Go Out There, and Kick a Little Demon Ass.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Typo Boy - Jul 04, 2014 11:50:38 am PDT #11901 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I wish I was anywhere nearby Connie. But all I can do is send my sympathy and wishes.


Cass - Jul 04, 2014 11:59:21 am PDT #11902 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

For a few days, eat if you can but you'll live if you don't. After a couple of days, you absolutely need to keep up strength. But a day or two? I wouldn't force things. Eat what is easy mentally and physically.

Would it be better with kids? I'd have people around me, but I'd be suffering their grief, too. We're having his wake in a couple of weeks.

I think kids make things more communal but you are dealing with their grief too. Losing Dad, I tried to be a comfort or help to my stepMom but I was devastated. I couldn't really do anything but feel pain and loss. Maybe we shared that. Maybe it was hard for her to see. I don't really know.


DavidS - Jul 04, 2014 12:08:07 pm PDT #11903 of 30002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

When my Mom died it was easier to be with friends who had some of that remove you mentioned, Connie. Because with my own family we each were trying to process our grief but also trying to tend to each other. And it's not really possible to do both at the same time.

I took comfort from spending time with my best friend's girlfriend. I knew she was sad but not devastated by mom's death, so she was emotionally synced up with me but didn't need special attention.

It's very strange when you first enter the landscape of grief. It is a whole place emotionally where you've never been before.

You'll forget they're gone, and turn to them for comfort even though they are the person you've lost.

And you'll learn that grief is different from loss, and from sadness and from depression.

It's very exhausting at first. Very physical. And it all feels very unreal and strange.

How can it be that the world that they were here so recently and now gone forever? Very difficult for the mind and heart to grasp that.


Laura - Jul 04, 2014 12:14:19 pm PDT #11904 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

Grief sucks beyond all telling. I am sorry that any of us have to endure this kind of loss. Every emotion you can imagine and a few you didn't know existed.


beekaytee - Jul 04, 2014 12:46:44 pm PDT #11905 of 30002
Compassionately intolerant

In my deepest grief, lots of people brought me lots and lots of wonderful food. It was all like sand in my mouth.

Cass is right, a couple of days won't hurt, but when you do need to get some calories, I can recommend the nutritional shakes from Costco. Much less gross than Ensure and small enough that you can get it down in a few mouths full without having time to think about it.

God. I wish I was there with you, which is hollow, I know. I'd SO go to see Captain America again, and anything else we could watch and chatnotchat about.

Another alternative is netflix watching over the phone. For THAT, I am here one hundred percent. We are distant enough from each other that, weirdly, it would not be weird. And I would be honored to hang out with and, not pry into, whatever your stuff is in any given moment.

My profile addy is good for number exchange.

It's miniscule, but this I offer with genuine sincerity.


Burrell - Jul 04, 2014 3:16:42 pm PDT #11906 of 30002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Would it be better with kids?

If it leads to any questioning or self-doubt, let it go. No one can answer that one anyway, it depends on too many variables. This is the life you have, these are the people who love and support you, and things will be hard, but you will get through it.


brenda m - Jul 04, 2014 3:21:05 pm PDT #11907 of 30002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

When my Mom died it was easier to be with friends who had some of that remove you mentioned, Connie. Because with my own family we each were trying to process our grief but also trying to tend to each other. And it's not really possible to do both at the same time.

God, that is what made you all such a godsend when I was going through the same thing. I genuinely don't know how I have made it without y'all and my girl Lucy.


Maria - Jul 04, 2014 3:55:56 pm PDT #11908 of 30002
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

What everyone else said, Connie. Don't force yourself to do anything you don't want to do. But drink water. Crying will dehydrate you quickly.

As for the rest, it is what it is. Nothing can be changed, and we have to somehow figure out a way to take the next breath.

It's very exhausting at first. Very physical. And it all feels very unreal and strange.

David is so very right here. You will feel like you've climbed a mountain. For the first 2 weeks or so, I was mentally disconnected from what my physical self was doing, but somehow what needed to get done got done. It's when there's nothing left to be done that the mind takes you down the dark path. That's when I was here almost 24/7. I couldn't take being with people, but I was terrified of being alone. This board, and Bitches especially, kept me going. I wish I could take this from you, but all I can offer is solidarity and support.


WindSparrow - Jul 04, 2014 4:02:39 pm PDT #11909 of 30002
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Darlings, I love you all.


Beverly - Jul 04, 2014 4:12:45 pm PDT #11910 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

God, that is what made you all such a godsend when I was going through the same thing. I genuinely don't know how I have made it without y'all

So much this.

It's very exhausting at first. Very physical. And it all feels very unreal and strange.

Yes.

I was mentally disconnected from what my physical self was doing, but somehow what needed to get done got done. It's when there's nothing left to be done that the mind takes you down the dark path. That's when I was here almost 24/7. I couldn't take being with people, but I was terrified of being alone. This board, and Bitches especially, kept me going.

And this.

I wish there was some easier way. I wish someone could be there, just a presence, for you. Failing that, we're here.