Y'all see the man hanging out of the spaceship with the really big gun? Now I'm not saying you weren't easy to find. It was kinda out of our way, and he didn't want to come in the first place. Man's lookin' to kill some folk. So really it's his will y'all should worry about thwarting.

Mal ,'Safe'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Jan 11, 2013 11:49:02 am PST #7342 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Open plan office - our company has been featured in a few architecture/design mags since we moved into the new digs. Most of the photos are of the common areas and breakout spaces, but if you scroll to the bottom there's a photo of one of our tables.


meara - Jan 11, 2013 11:58:52 am PST #7343 of 30001

Ugh. I am reminded once again how nice it is to work from home and not have to worry about cubes or offices. Last five years, man. It's been nice.


Toddson - Jan 11, 2013 11:59:23 am PST #7344 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

The office my group was in a number of years ago went from a badly organized bunch of individual offices to an open-plan space. At least, it was supposed to be an open plan for everyone but all the upper-level people NEEDED a closed office, so we ended up with a bunch of offices and us peons out in an open space. They'd set up, basically, counters that were in odd configurations and you ended up almost face-to-face with the person across. The counters were high enough that people were getting shoulder, arm, and back problems ... and were designed so you couldn't add an under-counter keyboard tray. They found that the face-to-face bit was terrible for people being able to concentrate, plus the noise level was impossible, so they added glass walls from the top of the dividers to the ceiling. When that still didn't solve the face-to-face issue, they had the glass frosted part way up. The noise level remained difficult, since they refused to have any guidelines, much less rules, about acceptable noisemakers, so we had the one or two people who HAD to do all their phone conversations on speaker and the two women who'd have music battles - each would try to drown out the other's music - several times a week.

Needless to say, it was a mess. And, since there was virtually no storage space, it was literally a mess, with stuff scattered wherever we could find some space. And then there was the time the guy who functioned as an office manager decided that we didn't really need all those big file cabinets taking up floor and wall space ... and the person in charge of membership records freaked when she came back from a vacation and found all her records gone.

Good times, good times ...

And this kind of sums things up.


Ginger - Jan 11, 2013 12:03:11 pm PST #7345 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

The power company I worked for had built its headquarters in the '70s to highlight the latest in energy-saving technologies. One part of that was open plans for most floors, with conference rooms in the center. Over the years, various executives decided that they just had to have offices, and they were built in the corners and then along walls. Of course, the building hadn't been ducted for any such thing and the walls completely screwed up the HVAC operation.


Toddson - Jan 11, 2013 12:17:46 pm PST #7346 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Did you notice that in all the photos of open plan offices the places are IMMACULATE? no stray papers, no personal items cluttering up the place ... not all that realistic, in my experience.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 11, 2013 12:25:00 pm PST #7347 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

If I was at a table like Jessica's, I can't figure out what I would do with my stuff. I print out about 30 billion times fewer things than everyone else at my job, but I still have stacks of notes, invoices, registration forms, brochures, etc.


Jessica - Jan 11, 2013 12:26:42 pm PST #7348 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Did you notice that in all the photos of open plan offices the places are IMMACULATE? no stray papers, no personal items cluttering up the place ... not all that realistic, in my experience.

The photos of my office (the link I posted) are. Office services did ask everyone to tidy up before the photographers arrived, but there isn't a lot of clutter around, generally speaking. The design of the office combined with the green initiative to go paperless keeps things pretty neat.


Glamcookie - Jan 11, 2013 12:35:50 pm PST #7349 of 30001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

I am with meara on being so happy to work from home. My workplace went to low-walled cubes for everyone a few years ago and it was okay, but home is way better! In fact, there was a huge upswing in working from home when they did this - the building is often over half empty. I finally got to let my cube go completely about 6 months ago and have none there, which is just fine with me. I camp in my old manager's cube with her when I'm there (maybe once every couple of months).

ETA: Jessica, your workplace looks really pretty and modern!


le nubian - Jan 11, 2013 12:37:52 pm PST #7350 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Reminds me of a campus residence hall built in the 1970s - it was the height of the movement to have open flooring for residences, so they put 7 people in campus apartments (each apt) without walls thinking students would love the openness.

After about 2-3 years and discontent, they put walls up.


le nubian - Jan 11, 2013 12:39:18 pm PST #7351 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

My condolences Gris. I'm so sorry about all of this hitting you at once.